Thanks for that neat little summary.

So just to conclude - It's not alright to reply if I support Wane (if it sounds like 'my tongue is firmly in his booty' as you so eloquently put it)

I think you are the one who should be embarrassed mate. If I'd posted the amount of tripe you do I'd give in. Your little match summaries are a real treat. You seem to be on your phone half the time, I doubt you are even watching.

You also seem to be obsessed with anal sex. Do us a favour and keep the 'booty' talk out of it eh?

Ahh RLFans, the forum where you get mercilessly shot down by fellow fans for even thinking of supporting the manager of your team.

Like I've said before, what were some of you like from 2005 - 2010?

Haha, the irony is strong. If you didn't sound like an absolute fanatic you might get some reasoned debate and then your inferiority complex wouldn't show through as much. And fwiw I never go on my phone at games. If I'm posting on here then I'm not at the game. Category D fan alert. Maybe my match summaries are half decent if they seem like I'm at the game though

Also you're probably assuming I'm in the "Wane out" camp, which I'm not. I just find it hilarious when certain posters seem to pop up when we win and blast their SW propaganda down our throats.

Being knocked out by Saints, Leeds or Warrington is a respectable finish, particularly in a season when we had already won the challenge cup by beating those teams one after another and gone unbeaten 25 out 28 games including a run of 12 consecutive wins. That's miles away from getting knocked out of the cup by Castleford or Hull KR.

He's lost a few good players (I think we have massively different views on what constitutes 'world class') but so did all the other top teams at the same time. Warrington lost Briers, Saints lost Graham and Cunningham, Leeds went into decline.

It may have escaped your attention but he hasn't kept them at the top. We hold neither trophy and have been knocked out of the cup twice on the bounce by teams who haven't won either major trophy in 20 years+. I'm not saying get rid just yet but finishing this season on another grand final defeat shouldn't be enough to keep him in the job IMO. He has a very good set of players at his disposal and should be winning trophies. I don't take the Flower incident as an excuse for last season either, I think the incident was at least partly a reflection of the way he coaches.

Jeez, guys, we're all Wigan fans! I'm nearly 200 miles from Wigan,so obviously don't go to every game. But I went to Huddersfield last week, and I'll be at Saints on Friday. And if Wigan play a game in London later in the season, as discussed, I'll go to that (a mere 100 miles). But we haven't got a God-given right to win every game, any more than Man Utd (say) have.

WIGAN FANS OUT

it's a good job most of the negative fans on here weren't born near any club who hasn't won anything for 20+ years they would be suicidal or organising a lynch mob for the owner and coach.

I've been following Wigan home and away since 2001, including 7 seasons in a row without a trophy. I went to 70-0 and 75-0. The difference now is we have a squad which should be winning trophies, and certainly shouldn't be getting knocked out of the challenge cup by Cas and Hull KR in consecutive seasons.

Cas are a decent side. OK, we shouldn't have lost to HKR, but are we only allowed to lose to Leeds and Saints, then? The fixture list wouldn't look much fun. Like all fans, I want to my side to win as much as possible, but I don't want to see (effectively) a three-team league, which is what you seem you be pointing towards.

Still, if I find the threads here too depressing, I can always look at the league table to cheer myself up...

Firstly, there's no need to shout. Second, the middle group of 30% are waiting to see if we improve, not win something. There is no mention of "winning something or he's out". Third, neither you nor I know if any of the current anti Wane group were ever pro Wane. There are some who have never liked him so can't be classed as fickle if they voted against him, can they? Sorry to be pedantic about it, but there you go.