Has anyone done a straw poll on numbers supporting/against noble? Whilst this is clearly a tiny subset of the population of fans would be quite interesting to see............

Are you kidding me? We have one every day!!

You have posts - and every time people try to explain about keeping noble they get shot down

the noble posts tend to be the same 20-30 people all the time. a poll may show the opinion of the less vocal amongst the board.

Though of course it may well be ruined by non-wigan fans!!

This thread is garbage. IL will wait till we get beat by Celtic before he sacks anyone.

We need dummy runners and moves.
Even Barrow moved the ball out wide better than us.

if we get beat by celtic at home EVERYONE should resign !

I think we are a bit light generally (apart from 2 fatties)
Prescott, Fielden, Joel and Hansen are lightweights, yet I believe they give their all and I won't criticise them.
Noble should look mat these and a light should come on. Let's move the other pack about with losts of switches and dummy runners. If any of the above 4 run into the usual 3 players (because it's so obvious who will receive the ball) who await them, they have no chance of making a break.
The much maligned Coley is our best forward at the moment because he has that extra bulk.
O'Loughlin also gives his all and is a tremendous tackler.
The 2 overweights should be given an ultimatum. Lose some weight or you won't be picked.

Fielden gives his all? Do you actually watch Wigan? Did you ever see the same man play at Bratford?
By fatty do you mean Feka? The man who's been our best prop for many years?

Seriously, if you need directions to the JJB I can help you out, you need to watch the team before passing comment.

I could say how long I've watched Wigan and whether I saw Fielden play in the magnificent Bradford pack but that is irrelevant.
What I see now is Fielden charging in with the ball with all his might but making no impression.
I also see Feka, a full-time pro who is huge and it isn't all muscle. I know he has been told to watch his diet. If he could lose a couple of stone he would be tremendous. He might even get picked for the Kiwis. He might be able to tackle Barrow players instead of letting them skip round him and under the posts.

More like someone who doesn't have the fight in him to do any damage to the defensive line. Someone who makes a shocking amount of yards, someone who hardly ever breaks a tackle, someone who never offloads is giving his best? Come on.

Feka is an impact prop. Why can't people understand the purpose of an impact prop? He's there to create an impact in different spells during the game, someone who can turn the game on it's head and in Wigan's favour. His drives get the fans out of their seats and raises the momentum of the team, he knocks defenders flying and nearly always has an arm free to offload, he creates an awesome impact.

Could he do all this a couple of stone lighter? probably not.

I still think part of Fieldens problems is coaching. The man tackles all day, therefore is not affraid of getting stuck in. The issue is his go forward, of which there is none at the moment.

His technique when running in has been all wrong for some time. As he hits the line of defence he stands as tall as he can and stamps his foot down to get some purchase in the ground to bump off the first tackler. now even if this happens and the first tackler bounces off and looks stupid, Fielden winning or losing this collision has come to a dead halt and then the second and third tacklers take him down for no yards.

Fielden needs to get his body psition down and drive throught the first defender, not this body check.

i think if he does this and breaks a tackle or 2 confidence will rise and we might see the Fielden of old (or a man some why to it).

Like it or not, slate him or not, Stuart was one of if not the best prop in the world a few years ago and by all accounts still trains like a man man. He is a proud man as well.

Add this together and you do not have a man who can't be bothered. In my opinion you have a man lacking in confidence and doing one of the basic tasks he is meant to do poorly due to technique.

Noble fixes this and he will make yards.

It's just not possible for someone who was as good as Stew to suddenly (without injury) become so bad.

I'm sorry to say that is exactly whats happened to him. Don't forget getting his bottle dropped by big Willie.
Fielden's head coach was the same man while he was at Bratford to what it is now...noble.