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| Quote Deano G="Deano G"Jalapeno - there are many people who have been calling for BN to go for a while but without saying that he was the sole cause of our problems. Far from it. The players have their share of the blame and the backroom staff just aren't producing players with the right level of strength, power and fitness to allow the team to compete properly at SL level (yesterday being a prime example),
I have been saying for some time (and probably boring people almost as much as I do about the SC
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Thinking positively about how the club can change this, to me the real issue is whether IL is going to start setting the agenda for success.
From what I have seen of the IL he is a genuine guy who cares about the club and actually cares about the fans. That's great, but if he's going to get us back challenging for honours he needs to raise ambitions and expectations.
Many posters on this board have this season been satisified with narrow defeats and mediocre performances. Many fans as well as the club have become infected with the disease of second rate syndrome.
What we need is for IL to start demanding nothing less than the best from the coaching and backroom staff and set expectations at a more appropriate level - realistic in the short term, but when he talks about the medium/long term he needs to start using language like "world class", "best in the world" etc.
We are Wigan, the greatest club in the world. For all his faults ML believed that, he made any doubters at Wigan believe it. He made the British RL world believe it (that's why some many envious people in RL hate us so much!). One night in Brisbane the Wigan club in its crowning achievement won the WCC, the greatest glory in a decade of unrivalled success (even outdoing the pummelling an all Wigan GB pack gave the Aussie pack on that famous night in Melbourne a couple of years earlier). We made even the Aussies believe it.
We may never - in the era of the SC (and general anti-Wigan bile and hatred) - get back to the top of that mountain but IL needs to aim high. A root and branch clear out of the club is necessary. We need new people, new ideas and most of all a new vision.'"
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There's no certainty from hiring a "top class coach". Noble was the best British coach by a mile - hasn't happened. On the flipside - Millward was a promising coach of a lower league club - very little form whatsoever - and yet he won Saints two GF.
As for making Craig Bellamy "a great offer" - why on earth would he want to come to Wigan?
Let's be honest - Wigan is a club desperately in need of open heart surgery. Things may get worse before they get better - even with a great coach. He may end up under the same pressure Noble's facing. Why put oneself through it? I can't see Craig Bellamy wanting such hassle.
Wigan are - a minimum - of three years away from being competitive at the top level. A LOT of players need to come and go in that time. And they have to be the right players or that number keeps on rising and inexorably out of reach. Top class coaches have ambitions like anyone else. Three years hard graft (with the crowd always two consecutive defeats away from booing you) probably isn't one of them.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"There's no certainty from hiring a "top class coach". Noble was the best British coach by a mile - hasn't happened. On the flipside - Millward was a promising coach of a lower league club - very little form whatsoever - and yet he won Saints two GF.
As for making Craig Bellamy "a great offer" - why on earth would he want to come to Wigan?
Let's be honest - Wigan is a club desperately in need of open heart surgery. Things may get worse before they get better - even with a great coach. He may end up under the same pressure Noble's facing. Why put oneself through it? I can't see Craig Bellamy wanting such hassle.
Wigan are - a minimum - of three years away from being competitive at the top level. A LOT of players need to come and go in that time. And they have to be the right players or that number keeps on rising and inexorably out of reach. Top class coaches have ambitions like anyone else. Three years hard graft (with the crowd always two consecutive defeats away from booing you) probably isn't one of them.'"
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All the money in Wigan's coffers won't bring Craig Bellamy. I can assure you.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"All the money in Wigan's coffers won't bring Craig Bellamy. I can assure you.'"
You can't assure us of any such thing. You're a fan, just like us.
But for it's worth, it wouldn't have to be Bellamy to be a big improvement on what we've currently got. For which reason, I doubt Wigan would waste time setting their sights so unrealistically high. |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Money will bring in a quality coach. Whether Wigan are prepared, or able, to produce enough of it is another question.'"
Wont happen till the end of the season Think about it in real terms. For Noble to be sacked now the club would have to pay his contract up which would probably cost £100,000 then if we wanted a top coach and i would think all the best ones are employed it would cost the club again in a fee to the club he works for plus his wages. Then he would want to bring in his own backroom staff again costing money to pay up the ones we have now that he want rid of also he would want to buy in players your probably looking in the region of around £300.000 if not more its not worth it for now. The time to make the changes is end of season move people out and bring new ones in and start a fresh next year. There is no relegation so there is no panic all the change the coach with the change of wind direction is not what we need. |
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I'm struggling to see what this top class coach can achieve in the three years he'll need to re-build the current mess into something like a decent side. Mid table is the best that can be hoped for.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"You can't assure us of any such thing. You're a fan, just like us.'"
I'm sure enough to stake a modest wager on it. |
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"I'm struggling to see what this top class coach can achieve in the three years he'll need to re-build the current mess into something like a decent side. Mid table is the best that can be hoped for.'"
Thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to Wigan's plans and ambitions. For which reason, this conversation is over. |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to Wigan's plans and ambitions.'"
I was under the impression there aren't any. |
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| Quote Andy Greg="Andy Greg"Wont happen till the end of the season Think about it in real terms. For Noble to be sacked now the club would have to pay his contract up which would probably cost £100,000 then if we wanted a top coach and i would think all the best ones are employed it would cost the club again in a fee to the club he works for plus his wages. Then he would want to bring in his own backroom staff again costing money to pay up the ones we have now that he want rid of also he would want to buy in players your probably looking in the region of around £300.000 if not more its not worth it for now. The time to make the changes is end of season move people out and bring new ones in and start a fresh next year. There is no relegation so there is no panic all the change the coach with the change of wind direction is not what we need.'"
I wonder what it will cost the club though if we continue to have a shocking season under BN..... attendances are already falling.....?? |
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