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Quote: NickyKiss "It should be a breath of fresh air to have 2 out and out centres in there this season. I suspect the 2 of them will make us realise just how much we’ve been ‘making do’ these past few seasons with guys like Bibby (who I like as a utility), Isa and KPP going in there on a regular basis.'"

Not to mention Faz. It's not only that we lost out from not having genuine centres in there but also that we had those covering not in their best positions too. A doubly whammy, if you will. Faz is one of (if not the) best 2nd rowers in the competition and, even though he never let anyone down at centre, losing him from the 2nd row, in effect, reduces his own quality. Same might be said for KPP for that matter.

King and Wardle both looked a major step up from what we had last year and you'd only expect that to become better as partnerships and combinations bed in. That Eckersley looks the part too should mean that we can cover injuries better before needing to look to the second row. We now have 4 players, once Thornley is back, able to slot into the centres.

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Centres playing at centre, nah, it’ll never catch on

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Quote: Phuzzy "Not to mention Faz. It's not only that we lost out from not having genuine centres in there but also that we had those covering not in their best positions too. A doubly whammy, if you will. Faz is one of (if not the) best 2nd rowers in the competition and, even though he never let anyone down at centre, losing him from the 2nd row, in effect, reduces his own quality. Same might be said for KPP for that matter.

King and Wardle both looked a major step up from what we had last year and you'd only expect that to become better as partnerships and combinations bed in. That Eckersley looks the part too should mean that we can cover injuries better before needing to look to the second row. We now have 4 players, once Thornley is back, able to slot into the centres.'"


Eckersley looks a real talent and seems comfortable across the backline. He reminds me a little bit of Wardle in how he moves, with good footwork challenging defenders.

It’s funny how the game goes, in that for a few years we’ve struggled in the centre position but we’ve had so many options in the second row and that could flip round in this next year or two. We’ll definitely have to go overseas for a second rower or two in 2024. I look at the squad lists around Superleague and realistic options are almost non existent.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Eckersley looks a real talent and seems comfortable across the backline. He reminds me a little bit of Wardle in how he moves, with good footwork challenging defenders.

It’s funny how the game goes, in that for a few years we’ve struggled in the centre position but we’ve had so many options in the second row and that could flip round in this next year or two. We’ll definitely have to go overseas for a second rower or two in 2024. I look at the squad lists around Superleague and realistic options are almost non existent.'"


A few of those young lads look like they could be the real deal. Eckersley, Forber and Hill all look like they're ready at this level. Hill is probably already challenging for the match day 17 and a couple of the more established props will have to up their game to retain their place. Forber was the best of our hookers yesterday too.

I agree regards the 2nd row although you would hope that Nsemba with a couple more years on him would be in the mix and I've also liked the look of Beardsworth when I've seen him play. Plenty of the Mick Cassidy workhorse about him and I say that in a very positive sense.

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Quote: Phuzzy "A few of those young lads look like they could be the real deal. Eckersley, Forber and Hill all look like they're ready at this level. Hill is probably already challenging for the match day 17 and a couple of the more established props will have to up their game to retain their place. Forber was the best of our hookers yesterday too.

I agree regards the 2nd row although you would hope that Nsemba with a couple more years on him would be in the mix and I've also liked the look of Beardsworth when I've seen him play. Plenty of the Mick Cassidy workhorse about him and I say that in a very positive sense.'"


I watched Beardsworth in the flesh at Whitehaven and on the coverage at Barrow and I like his workrate with and without the ball. My only worry would be that he killed a few attacks as he seemed to struggle to get his head up and pass the ball but that was only a couple of games and it’s very early days.

As for the other youngsters, we seem to have let a few go and really cherry picked what we think are our best across the park. The 6 who have first team numbers are a winger, centre, halfback, prop, hooker and a back rower. Hopefully they’re the right ones and I’m confident they are. All could see opportunities this season because of how we’ve set the squad up.

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I reckon everyone on here will pick the same 1-7 and 11 12 13 for HKR, only question is who starts at prop and how many are on the bench ?
I'd go for 3 plus a utility but I could understand 4 weather dependant.

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Quote: apollosghost "I reckon everyone on here will pick the same 1-7 and 11 12 13 for HKR, only question is who starts at prop and how many are on the bench ?
I'd go for 3 plus a utility but I could understand 4 weather dependant.'"

I personally would go with Byrne, powell + Cooper starting and Singo Ellis Isa O'neil on the bench.

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Quote: apollosghost "I reckon everyone on here will pick the same 1-7 and 11 12 13 for HKR, only question is who starts at prop and how many are on the bench ?
I'd go for 3 plus a utility but I could understand 4 weather dependant.'"


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French (assuming nothing comes of the ice pack)
King
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I assume Byrne is still banned? otherwise he starts, Ellis to bench and Mago out.

Was a hard pick between Isa and O'Neill, both bring cover in different ways (O'neill can play hooker or loose, Isa can play Second Row or Centre / allow KPP or Farrell to go centre) but i think Isa allows cover to more positions.

I think Ellis starting might be a tad controversial of a pick, but my thought process is that it could help alleviate the drop off in intensity we saw when the forwards rotated in the Salford friendly, i think Singleton & havard coming off the bench looks stronger and more balanced than Singleton and Ellis. I would look to rotate Mago in as late as possible against a more tired defence.

Edit - just checked Byrne only had a 1 match ban so changing my initial picks around, Ellis to bench, Mago out.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Just read Byrne had a slight knee injury but Peet confident he’ll be sound for Round 1

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Quote: Taylorhit "I personally would go with Byrne, powell + Cooper starting and Singo Ellis Isa O'neil on the bench.'"

No Havard?

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Byrne and Cooper to start

Ellis and Havard on the bench.

Won't happen however and Singo will play and continue to offer absolutely nothing to team. I'll await the "hE dOeS ThInGs yOu CaNt SeE" reply.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Byrne and Cooper to start

Ellis and Havard on the bench.

Won't happen however and Singo will play and continue to offer absolutely nothing to team. I'll await the "hE dOeS ThInGs yOu CaNt SeE" reply.'"


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He wasn’t the best against Salford. He has it in him to be a decent option. When he returned from his ban and he had a stint when we first signed him he was great for us. He needs to find that form again. I think they see him now as a bit of a leader when Cooper goes off.

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Quote: Phuzzy "No Havard?'"


I honestly forgot about him, he deffo goes in ahead of Singo for me.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Singleton looked very slow and lethargic the other day, can’t recall if he was at fault for Borough’s clean break.

Lost his starting spot too.

Wonder if he’s not had a good preseason?

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Quote: Stu M "I believe the plan is to loan Hill out for a month given that the Reserves don't play for that long.'"


Well well well would you look at that "The WarringtonWolve69"

Hill has gone out on loan as confirmed last night. Its almost like I do have a contact after all.....

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