Ellis for me has been hugely disappointing after a great start. I’m not sure what went wrong with him but he has been terrible the last few months.

It does sound like sour grapes...

10 weeks ago, i'd have agreed with you. But we've improved beyond what anyone would have expected, without ever really putting out our best side.

Fair play to Leeds, played us off the park. good luck in the GF

I’m normally very lenient with my view on foul play but that was a red imo, I certainly expected it to be a red and don’t think we can complain about it going off other sendings off this season. I think this was actually one that looked better in slow motion than it did in real time, it was pure frustration from Bateman and has cost us any chance to win the game.

I’ve not seen it on tv yet, but saw it on the screen and it seemed harsh to me.

Certainly no malice.

Leeds fan in peace. Just watched Matty Peet post match. What a great bloke he is. Spoke very well in what must be a disappointing night. Not often do you see that much dignity in defeat from a coach. Look forward to next year. All the best.

Same for Smith, 2 very humble men and clearly quality coaches.

Kind of blokes teams want to play for.

It’s not everything as was proven tonight but you won’t win many games with stats like tonight, even with 12 men we were still on top.
That’s 2 games now where we’ve had loads of ball on your line and struggled to break you down so I give full credit to your goal line defence, reminded me of our attack under Lam.

Smith and Tommy were poor tonight, Cust was a huge miss.

Both our halves seemed nervous and seemed to snatch at chances when he had field position.

Cust is such a level headed player who offers a calming influence and composure, qualities which were badly missed tonight.

In todays game it’s a red, no question imo. As I said earlier I thought the slow mo replay made it look better than it was, at full pace it looked a lot worse and it was clear that there was frustration behind that after finding ourselves behind in a game we really shouldn’t have been. Bateman I imagine is distraught and to compound that Sezer can’t play in the grand final which is heart breaking for the bloke.

I thought Smiths kicking was decent and it gave us the platform to keep the pressure on with regards to territory in terms first half outside of that Smith, Tommy and Powell created nothing really but even though it was frustrating to only be 2 ahead at half time i felt we had landed enough blows to soften Leeds up in the second half and wear them down but the 5/10 minutes of madness from us conceding 2 soft try’s and then the red card have ultimately cost us the game, it’s given Leeds the extra belief they needed and obviously the numerical advantage.
Fair play to Leeds that was amazing goal line defence but I do stand by my statement and I don’t think this Leeds side is great, I could see Saints putting a beating on them next week.

Smith's kicking game was superb, but he was dreadful with ball in hand.

We've not beat Salford yet

Agreed. I think if Cust was fit we go into the half time break 12 up at least.

Smith seemed very nervous. Played himself out of the England squad tonight for me.

True when you look that all the top teams have lost Catalan ,Huddersfield and Wigan who knows what the Saints result will bring.