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Never underestimate the power of the clappy side
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| Quote: wigan_knight "Never underestimate the power of the clappy side
Why should you be happy if you've got the clap?
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| 1st season away from Brian Noble - a chance to change for Fielden although it may well be too late. But obviosuly MM sees something in him or else he wouldnt have thatnumber 8 shirt next season.
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| Stu Fielden is, and always has been one of the best trainers and most dedicated pros in Superleague. I'm sure Maguire, Bitcon and Wane will have taken this into consideration when handing out the squad numbers.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Stu Fielden is, and always has been one of the best trainers and most dedicated pros in Superleague. I'm sure Maguire, Bitcon and Wane will have taken this into consideration when handing out the squad numbers.'"
I honestly think the squad numbers have barely been given a moment's thought.
That's not a criticism, its just I feel they've been released to help boost shirt sales which makes sense. All the numbers handed out are common sense selections based on last season.
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| Quote: AJ "I noticed this, he had no problem dumping Feka/Bailey/Goulding and rewarding Sam/Phelps/Coley. So Stuart must be showing something to warrant his squad number.'"
Or could it be that bedause Stuart offers no impact whatsoever when coming off the bench that MM has decided to start games with him hence the shirt number
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| Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "Or could it be that bedause Stuart offers no impact whatsoever when coming off the bench that MM has decided to start games with him hence the shirt number'"
Or perhaps Maguire has seen that Stuart has finally come out of his comfort zone, is training really hard and has got back a bit of much needed freshness and desire to his game?
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| Quote: jjb10 "Stuart has finally come out of his comfort zone, is training really hard and has got back a bit of much needed freshness and desire to his game?'"
Is the sun pink on your planet?
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I think people need to realise this...
Quote: jjb10 "We are fully aware that fans like to be able to have the name and number of their favourite player on their replica shirt but my team selections will be based purely on merit and performance and the players will certainly have to earn their place in the starting line up each week. '"
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| Quote: MadDogg "I honestly think the squad numbers have barely been given a moment's thought.
That's not a criticism, its just I feel they've been released to help boost shirt sales which makes sense. All the numbers handed out are common sense selections based on last season.'"
I agree. They needed to give the players squad numbers so people could get them on the back of shirts for Christmas. As you say the numbers are common sense selections based on last season and players natural positions. Gleeson in the 17 before Goulding is no slight on Goulding for example.
As others have posted they don't mean much anyway because if a player with a 1st 17 number does not shape up he is going to get dropped.
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| We don't need Fielden to return to his absolute best form. If MM and SW can just get Fielden, Coley and Prescott playing a bit better than last season and get Feka fit then we'll have as good a set of props as anyone. Yes Peacock may be better than any of the four we have, but we have real strength in depth at prop IMO.
I don't expect massive improvements from any player next season (apart from in fitness terms), but we don't need massive improvements. We weren't a million miles away last season, despite the awful inconsistency and poor conditioning and tactics...A small improvement from each player in the squad will close the gap on Saints and possibly even Leeds. Fielden has a key role to play in this as he has been underperforming. He may not be capable any more of world class performances, but if he can recover some of that lost ground, then it would be an important piece in the jigsaw next season.
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| Quote: Deano G "Quote: Deano G "We don't need Fielden to return to his absolute best form.'" If MM and SW can just get Fielden, Coley and Prescott playing a bit better than last season and get Feka fit then we'll have as good a set of props as anyone. Yes Peacock may be better than any of the four we have, but we have real strength in depth at prop IMO.
I don't expect massive improvements from any player next season (apart from in fitness terms), but we don't need massive improvements. We weren't a million miles away last season, despite the awful inconsistency and poor conditioning and tactics...A small improvement from each player in the squad will close the gap on Saints and possibly even Leeds. Fielden has a key role to play in this as he has been underperforming. He may not be capable any more of world class performances, but if he can recover some of that lost ground, then it would be an important piece in the jigsaw next season.'"
Mate for what he is earning he needs to be the stand out prop week in week out bar the odd dip in performance, this is what he was brought in for back in the day. I hope this is the change he needed and now out of his comfort zone thinks its Sh1t or bust for him with regards to a new deal.
As for the rest coley will always be a average player at best imo. Preck will improve so long as he keeps injury free. Feka by all accounts has lost a bit of weight so providing he is used correctly and not when the egg timer says so on the bench he should go ok .
If Fielden aint capable of any world class performances then who is ??
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| Quote: 8inarow "If MM and SW can just get Fielden, Coley and Prescott playing a bit better than last season and get Feka fit then we'll have as good a set of props as anyone. Yes Peacock may be better than any of the four we have, but we have real strength in depth at prop IMO.
I don't expect massive improvements from any player next season (apart from in fitness terms), but we don't need massive improvements. We weren't a million miles away last season, despite the awful inconsistency and poor conditioning and tactics...A small improvement from each player in the squad will close the gap on Saints and possibly even Leeds. Fielden has a key role to play in this as he has been underperforming. He may not be capable any more of world class performances, but if he can recover some of that lost ground, then it would be an important piece in the jigsaw next season.'"
Mate for what he is earning he needs to be the stand out prop week in week out bar the odd dip in performance, this is what he was brought in for back in the day. I hope this is the change he needed and now out of his comfort zone thinks its Sh1t or bust for him with regards to a new deal.
As for the rest coley will always be a average player at best imo. Preck will improve so long as he keeps injury free. Feka by all accounts has lost a bit of weight so providing he is used correctly and not when the egg timer says so on the bench he should go ok .
If Fielden aint capable of any world class performances then who is ??'" ]
But it is simply not realistic to expect him to suddenly come out and fall back into the form of 4/5 years ago,
What we should hope for from Fielden are good performances week in week out, being more dominant in defence and offering more going forward.
I hope MM takes his game apart and rebuilds it going forward so that he simply gets back to basics, he has always in his prime relied on his footwork, but defences have improved personally I would ask him to concentrate on his body angle at impact and work to find his front.
For the last few years he has gone in far too upright got held up, pushed back and dominated on the ground. Indeed the only glimpses of life we have seen from him has been when he has taken a wide step into contact giving him a good base and seeming able to bump a player off, but sadly he has lacked the power to continue forward as his momentum is stopped and he ends up running sideways or backwards and having to offload.
Hopefully with superior conditioning Fielden can become an asset going forward rather than a momentum killer which he often has been.
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| Quote: Deano G "we have real strength in depth at prop IMO.'"
Really? I think we're shot for props to be honest. We have one on the wrong side of 30 who was only average even at his peak, one former superstar who has had about 5 good games in the last three years, one impact player who has gone worse every year he's been here and the rest are young and unproven. Our best prop wouldn't make the England train on squad. If one thing lets us down in 2010 it'll be our go-forward in the pack IMO.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Really? I think we're shot for props to be honest. We have one on the wrong side of 30 who was only average even at his peak, one former superstar who has had about 5 good games in the last three years, one impact player who has gone worse every year he's been here and the rest are young and unproven. Our best prop wouldn't make the England train on squad. If one thing lets us down in 2010 it'll be our go-forward in the pack IMO.'"
I think you far undervalue our pack and far overvalue everybody elses.
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