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| Quote: Zig "What would your choice of currency be Whiffy? Whatever it is the lobby won’t take me up on it.'"
Relics, Brick or maybe Spondulix
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| No ban for Smithies.
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| Quote: CM Punk "No ban for Smithies.'"
Shouldnt have been a yellow nevermind a ban
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""Shouldnt have been a yellow nevermind a ban'"
Your coach seems to believe he should learn how to tackle. Then again he does not seem to be as one eyed as you.
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| Interesting reading looking at the stats.
The player that seems to have got the biggest slating for his performance was probably our most effective back in Toby King.
Stats also highlight Faz, Smithies, Powell and Smith had stinkers in defence.
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| Quote: jonh "Interesting reading looking at the stats.
The player that seems to have got the biggest slating for his performance was probably our most effective back in Toby King.
Stats also highlight Faz, Smithies, Powell and Smith had stinkers in defence.'"
I don't know what stats he shows up well in but the stats won't show him failing to challenge SKD for the high ball for the first try, his defensive effort against SKD for the second try may not even count as a missed tackle as he was that far away and he followed it up with a botched offload that led to the third try.
I think he ran the ball in well on a couple of occasions - outside of that it was a stinker. Doesn't surprise me that the stats show he wasn't alone though. It was just a very poor performance - let's hope the players respond to the reality check that Peet acknowledged it was.
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| How we use our prop rotation going forward will be interesting. Aside from Mago, we have 5 lads there capable of doing big minutes and I think sometimes we’re running with too many in the 17. If Mago is in the 17, I get going with 5 but If not, I think it should be 4.
I look at Ellis on Saturday and he gets about 20 minutes in the second half. The lad looks as fit as a fiddle and I just don’t see him as the sort of prop who will make a major impact one 20 minute spell. I’d like to see guys like him and Havard being tested in long spells and the props being given a carrot of getting long spells if they perform. It sometimes feels too planned the rolling on and off of the prop forwards.
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| Quote: Keiththered "Your coach seems to believe he should learn how to tackle. Then again he does not seem to be as one eyed as you.'"
very good
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""very good
You agree then!
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| Quote: Keiththered "You agree then!'"
You have won a game then!
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| Quote: Jason65 "You have won a game then!'"
Yes we have. It’s a good start, nothing more. It’s just that winning the first game is better than losing it. You trying to belittle the achievement tells me it’s hurting you.
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| The biggest problem with our performance was line speed and attitude and discipline in defence and attack.
Nothing to do with individuals. Put in one better prop or 2nd row wouldn't change a great deal.
Sort the above out collectively as a team we become very competitive. Then the lack of a great prop or hard running second row becomes a factor in the bigger games .
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| Quote: Big Steve "The biggest problem with our performance was line speed and attitude and discipline in defence and attack.
Nothing to do with individuals. Put in one better prop or 2nd row wouldn't change a great deal.
Sort the above out collectively as a team we become very competitive. Then the lack of a great prop or hard running second row becomes a factor in the bigger games .'"
Agree with this.
Some players were being scapegoated even before a ball was kicked with certain supporters hoping they would fail which is bizarre.
It was a collectively woeful performance across the park.
As you point out the line speed was horrendous, the team didn’t look like they knew what they were doing in that area and I wonder if a new system has been introduced that the team are not comfortable with.
The missed tackle stats from our pack collectively was ridiculously high which as you say points out towards attitude issues.
Lack of meters being used as a stick to beat props with doesn’t really work as in our system our backs are used to make meters not really the props, who are there to dominate in defence, which they generally didn’t and were rightfully criticised for being soft by Peet.
The only positive I take is that we played so badly and we’re still in with a chance of winning deep into the game.
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| It’s maybe too simple a way to look at it but the defeat could be a great lesson for us going forward. I don’t think there’s a rank bad side in the league this season and you aren’t going to win games, especially away from home, being that loose.
I’m confident we’ll bounce right back this week and we really then need to get our heads in gear for a very similar challenge to last week, when we go to Cas the following week. C4 tried to make it sound dramatic saying we’ve not won an away game since July last year, when in reality it is now 4 games, with one of them being a team of kids at HKR last year but that away form is something we need to flip round. Getting caught like rabbits in headlights can’t be allowed to become the norm.
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