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| Quote Famous="Famous"So out of who was/is available who would you have signed? Please dont come out with ridiculous names like Soward, Reynolds and Cronk who we wouldnt have had a cat in hells chance of signing.'"
I have no idea who we could have signed but there being no one else available won't make Smith and Green better players will it? They are what they are and I am sick of hearing this "who else could we have signed" comment being trotted out. The club has ended up with poorer half backs than our rivals for next season despite the fact none of them have Soward, Reynolds or Cronk on their books either and that is all that matters at the end of the day - the standard of player in our team.
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| Holdsworth is better than either green or smith and was available for less than you paid for either
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| Quote caytonrobin="caytonrobin"Even Sam may have spilled? Almost certainly would have as this is one of the weaknesses of his game. Attacking a genuine world beater, defence competent at best. Sorry to see you lose though.'"
Sam would have caught it. His weakness is when people apply pressure to the high bomb. Murphy was under no such pressure.
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| Quote proper-shaped-balls="proper-shaped-balls"So who was at fault for losing us the game, Murphy or the player who gave the penalty away?'"
Neither. The most blame lies with Wane for picking such an inexperienced player at full back and playing Lockers at 9.
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| Quote Conroy="Conroy"Murphy seemed to eager to take the ball on the full for me but had he let it bounce and it hurtled back towards the Leeds side then he'd have been ridiculed then too. I feel sorry for him tonight.'"
I hope people on here arent blaming Murphy for that?
100% fault goes to Finch. Should have kicked for touch instead of getting a rush of blood to the head trying an impossible kick with zero chance of success. Why is it the most experienced players bottle it in big matches? Murphy did OK it was NOT his fault.
Saying that, last nights result hasnt sunk in yet for me, I guess when this evenings match starts its going hit me. Im not looking forward to that feeling. Good luck to both teams tonight I hope they put on a show that is just as entertaining.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Neither. The most blame lies with Wane for picking such an inexperienced player at full back and playing Lockers at 9.'"
I agree for a change with you.
But go back a bit and if Wane had used his brains rather than his heart he would have rested over half the team against Saints this month took a beating and would not have SL best loose forward at hooker. As for the full back position it would have been less of an issue to have Richards there and Gelling or Thornley on the wing than to put a young guy in whose confidence now will have taken a major knock.
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| Quote tank123="tank123"I agree for a change with you.
But go back a bit and if Wane had used his brains rather than his heart he would have rested over half the team against Saints this month took a beating and would not have SL best loose forward at hooker. As for the full back position it would have been less of an issue to have Richards there and Gelling or Thornley on the wing than to put a young guy in =#FF0000whose confidence now will have taken a major knock.'"
Thats also one of my MASSIVE worries about last night.
A young 20 yr old lad who now has that to stew on for 6 months before he can even put it right...bad enough in a league game or even a CC game but at least he could come back from those games next week and start re-building. In a final eliminator there is no such luxury!
I fear that his confidence could be knocked that much it could ruin a promising rugby league career- He'll watch tonight and next week and unfortunately no matter what's said to him will blame himself - stupid choice by SW imo
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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"I hope people on here arent blaming Murphy for that?
100% fault goes to Finch. Should have kicked for touch instead of getting a rush of blood to the head trying an impossible kick with zero chance of success.n
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"I have no idea who we could have signed but there being no one else available won't make Smith and Green better players will it? They are what they are and I am sick of hearing this "who else could we have signed" comment being trotted out. The club has ended up with poorer half backs than our rivals for next season despite the fact none of them have Soward, Reynolds or Cronk on their books either and that is all that matters at the end of the day - the standard of player in our team.'"
Do you not think others are equally sick of hearing the constant negativity about signing players who aren't as good when it was pretty much inevitable there wouldn't be any chance of replacing either Finch or Leuluai like for like given the quality players they are and the lack of quality available.
It works both ways and just because you are sick of it doesn't mean you can put across your point of view and insinuate people are fed up with hearing the alternative.
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| Quote tank123="tank123"I agree for a change with you.
But go back a bit and if Wane had used his brains rather than his heart he would have rested over half the team against Saints this month took a beating and would not have SL best loose forward at hooker. As for the full back position it would have been less of an issue to have Richards there and Gelling or Thornley on the wing than to put a young guy in whose confidence now will have taken a major knock.'"
I think the way Wane has managed the team has been poor. We ended up having to bust a gut to win v HKR because we lost games we should have easily won v Widnes and Bradford and those losses had a lot to do with team selection. So our last two games before the play-offs were a massive effort v HKR and he clearly had the team fired up v Saints.
To be fair he would have take A LOT of stick had he put a weak side out v Saints and had it been common knowledge he was going to do so the gate would have dropped and the income would have been less but that is the dilemma the play offs give you. Do you respect the league fixtures or do you "do a Millward"?
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"Do you not think others are equally sick of hearing the constant negativity about signing players who aren't as good when it was pretty much inevitable there wouldn't be any chance of replacing either Finch or Leuluai like for like given the quality players they are and the lack of quality available.'"
Not another one! Here we go again "...the lack of quality available....". The record is stuck.
Quote Cherry.PieIt works both ways and just because you are sick of it doesn't mean you can put across your point of view and insinuate people are fed up with hearing the alternative.'"
I am not insinuating anything about what others may think. I am saying "I" am fed up with hearing this excuse. If you aren't I really don't care one way or the other.
In my opinion the club has made a big error in arriving at a situation where we lose Tommy and Finch at the same time. I have said this many times and the fact there isn't much available is why this is such a problem.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"I think the way Wane has managed the team has been poor. We ended up having to bust a gut to win v HKR because we lost games we should have easily won v Widnes and Bradford and those losses had a lot to do with team selection. So our last two games before the play-offs were a massive effort v HKR and he clearly had the team fired up v Saints.
To be fair he would have take A LOT of stick had he put a weak side out v Saints and had it been common knowledge he was going to do so the gate would have dropped and the income would have been less but that is the dilemma the play offs give you. Do you respect the league fixtures or do you "do a Millward"?'"
Somtimes you got to lose a battle to win a war.
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