Thought that myself. The state of Kendall

We’re now below Leigh in the table btw

I don’t understand. Before the game everyone was saying this will be a walk over but then when we are loosing we’re getting comments like pathetic. Lads heads are down atm. I still back us to turn this round the season I mean not this game. We have been poor tonight very poor at times but still time.

Abject shambles

We’ll be lucky to make the play offs

This has gone on since the struggle at home against Wakefield though. Heads are down but we’ve got a threadbare squad with no depth whatsoever and give Hill about 15 mins. Where’s the ‘leadership group?’ We’ve a 7 who needs to be binned off asap and stick to a combination for the next month that we have to commit to because the current lot have had their chance.

Leadership agreed - none on the pitch Farrell is not a captain.Our 7 will do nothing with a pack that has no go forward and even worse no runners, Farrel back to lumbering up and walking, Smithies always offers less than zero in attack, we really miss Isa who runs on to the ball with some speed and at least gets the defense going backwards even if he is not really big enough.

Our pack was useless today apart from Ellis who I thought ran himself to a standstill. everything feels like slow motion. We need some serious recruitment and a few clearouts at the end of the season. Peet needs to decide who is playing 6 and stick with them keep chopping and changing is not helpiing at all.

Too many one out drives and stupid mistakes are killing us, same each week.

We are very low on grunt in the pack and confidence.

If we are to turn this around both those elements need addressing.

Too good from Saints in the end but they opened the door in that 1st half and Wigan were not good enough to take the invite. Confidence is low and defence is disjointed. French is not a 6 - can understand Peet feeling the need to change but that's not the right one. The Thornley gamble backfired big time - his errors and penalties cost us 12 points.

Biggest problem is still the forward pack - injuries don't help but poor recruitment in that area over the last five years is the biggest culprit.

Bang on.

Didn't someone here say before the game, we might as well accept we're not going to get any of the 50/50s from the ref tonight? Well, that in spades! And the ruck was so slow, from both sides. Why do refs put up with this? Rugby league would be a much better spectacle if they called "Held!" quicker. But that defence, just awful. And when we got the ball, we had no shape to threaten them. I left a record-breaking 20 mins before the end. Never done that before, but I always take my bike there, and they keep you there until all the pedestrians have left the stadium (can be half an hour or so after the end of the match), so I thought sod it, why not make an early getaway? Plus muppets started throwing beer bottles on the pitch (smart move not selling draught beer, Saints! ) and the atmosphere was getting a little unpleasant, and getting home in the warm for a beer and a smoke seemed quite appealing!

Yea agree. Didn’t want to sound like a broken record but forwards we are struggling on. At full strength our forwards are a little on the light side. I think Mago goes the end of this year. I thought he’d turned a corner but isn’t doing what we brought him in for. Really need to replace him with an experienced prop who’s going to skittle teams. Not going to happen but Jared Waerea-Hargreaves would be that player, no backwards step in him. I’m trying to see the lighter side of a defeat as it’s depressing to think we’re on a spiral but Saints we’re in the same spot as we were on Good Friday (we weren’t full strength I’ll add) I think Peet can Turn this round we’re 6th. Get Isa, Kpp and Havard back and I think we’ll be a different side

We need to get back to what worked Field to full back French on the wing and Cust/Shorocks at stand off.No disrepect to Miski hes done a good job to fill in but not good enough for Wigan taking up a overseas.

We’ve been waiting for the warm weather to play our ‘free-flowing’ rugby but we are just getting shown up in every area of the game now. The mitigation is the pack is all over the place but when I hear Wilkin say ‘this is a good learning game for Smithies’ I'm just left shaking my head in disbelief, he’s got 13 on his back, our absolutely iconic jersey at the club and he’s got nothing to his game that warrants that honour.

That shirt was Batemans. I think it was a panic to give it to Smithies. Don’t get me wrong I rate Smithies but he’s only 22 he’s still learning. I think he can be that player in time. I still think they can target this year however going in to next year we need to be more ruthless in signing and droppings. We have a good reputation in supporting players but if it’s not working the club need to realise we need to move on