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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "So as we all know, we will be severely depleted next year and a major overhaul is required. What realistic signings would you like to see.
Here are mine
Personally i don't think we are strong enough at either centre but Sarginson is the one i would lose if i had to pick. I have been saying this for about 3 years but Bill Topou would be the most ideal centre around we could possibly go for. Problem is though, his stock has risen so much would he come? Sounds daft really but Wakefield are a bit more professional and 'homely' that we are at the moment. Do we still have the 'draw' factor?
Loose forward. Lockers i shouldn't imagine will go around again and we keep trying different combinations to plug the gap but there is a player in SL who flies under the radar of everybody who could make the position his own for the next 10 years. An absolute work horse who can get over the line and does a huge amount of work. That man is George Lawler.
Props. We need 2 (at least) but where are there 2 props with enough grunt to give us the extra edge over what we already have. We missed one in the off season. Kopczak would have been ideal for a couple of years but where do we find 2 new ones? Francis Tualau of the Bulldogs is off contract at the end of 2019 is is unlikely to have NRL clubs lining up for him. 24 years old, absolute monster of a man. Would be happy to take a risk on him. Wouldn't cost a lot of money either. The second is the more obvious one. David Fifita is off contract i think at the end of the season. I don't need to explain that one.
Hooker. Tricky one. Kurt Baptiste has signed for the Cowboys this year for a season. Never gets a regular run in the NRL but always seems to sign for the top clubs. He came over and played 1 game for Leigh before being released for personal and family reasons a few years ago. Maybe with the impending thought of him having no club next season might change his mind. Left field suggestion. Brad Dwyer is off contract at the end of 2019. He can unlock any defence and is very underrated.
Second row. Kenny Edwards is off contract at the end of the season. Any club worth their salt would be in for him. Would possibly demand high wages though but a class act nether the less.
Half Back. Maloney has all but said he will be at the Panthers until 2020 and in 2021 he will be 35. Not for me at that age for the wages. Robert Lui is out of contract and is, as we know a powerhouse half who can kick, score try's and tackle.
My two pennies worth. We will have a lot of cap space at the end of the year. Maybe we could fit them all in.'"
I agree with all of the positions that you have highlighted but I see a couple of issues with the people you have suggested.
Firstly the team is completely lobsided, the centre and second row we need both have to have a preference for playing down the right hand side, sadly Tupou and Edwards are both left sided players.
Secondly there is no chance of replacing Lockers like for like so we are going to have to change our style to allow for his absence.
Third we vdefinitely need 2 half backs, possibly Harry Smith as one he controls games well and we would need a top class experienced half to play alongside him.
Lastly we need 2 huge possibly nasty props to go with Flower and Bullock, and a creative hooker.
Not to much to hope for eh.
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| Is this really where we are? If we’re at the level where we’re discussing the likes of Josh Jones as a realistic target we really are in dark times. It’s very sad.
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| Rumours surrounding a few halves going to the NRL at the moment.
Williams and Fages being tapped up obviously.
One thing to note is the lack of rumour or links to the NRL for Hastings.
Wigan must be monitoring this situation, must.
If he isn’t going back the the NRL it is essential we make a marquee size bid for him.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "Is this really where we are? If we’re at the level where we’re discussing the likes of Josh Jones as a realistic target we really are in dark times. It’s very sad.'"
Stats and performances don't lie. He is on top of most of the stats. We have to re-adjust our sights. We need a few bargains to fit in if we are going to sign some big guns (little evidence of that hapoening though).
Billy. As i was typing Edwards i was thinking that but then thought he has that much class i am pretty sure he would cope on the right. And Topou would come in at left centre. Its up to Gildart and Sarginson who wants to earn their spot on the right. Gildart is pretty flexible. He cant tackle on either side
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| I personally hope we sign half of warringtons team and Steve price just so Rubber Duckie goes into meltdown and won’t be seen on this forum ever again
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| I personally hope Locky stays on for another year maybe 2. He is one of the few shining lights in the season so far.
Slightly confused by calls for him to retire.
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| Quote: KingRoss11 "I personally hope we sign half of warringtons team and Steve price just so Rubber Duckie goes into meltdown and won’t be seen on this forum ever again'"
Aye bring them home! If Wire lost all their Wiganers they’d be left with their Australians, Kiwis and Yorkies but if they all left that would leave them Dec Patton.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "Is this really where we are? If we’re at the level where we’re discussing the likes of Josh Jones as a realistic target we really are in dark times. It’s very sad.'"
A couple of seasons ago I’d have agreed but he had come on leaps and bounds and is now a very handy back rower indeed IMO.
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| Quote: jonh "I personally hope Locky stays on for another year maybe 2. He is one of the few shining lights in the season so far.
Slightly confused by calls for him to retire.'"
I do agree going off the first few games but he’s been drilled in to the ground by Lam recently and has looked goosed. His head doesn’t seem right and his Huddersfield performance was just so unlike him, showing his frustrations and falling out with Powell at one point.
Manage him better, give him more rests and I’d say he stays on for 2020. Continue to play him for 60/70 mins each week and he may not see out this season before his body packs in.
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| I was really chuffed to see Lockers having a go at Powell. Not for any other reason but to see that level of passion at his age and this stage of his career. It’s obvious the current form is hurting the players and that’s a good thing. It was one of few positives to take from that game.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "I was really chuffed to see Lockers having a go at Powell. Not for any other reason but to see that level of passion at his age and this stage of his career. It’s obvious the current form is hurting the players and that’s a good thing. It was one of few positives to take from that game.'"
I agree that it’s nice to see he still has that passion but it was surprising tbh because it’s the first time in a 16 year first team career I’ve seen that. He knocked on shortly after and booted the ball away in frustration, so he’s clearly not happy with how things are going.
If at all possible I think it’s imperative he stays on next year though. To be able to do that though we can’t flog him in to the ground this year. He was limping all over the place after the Wire game after being asked to do far too long IMO. Yes things aren’t good at the moment but they’re not worth flogging your best player for.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I agree that it’s nice to see he still has that passion but it was surprising tbh because it’s the first time in a 16 year first team career I’ve seen that. He knocked on shortly after and booted the ball away in frustration, so he’s clearly not happy with how things are going.
If at all possible I think it’s imperative he stays on next year though. To be able to do that though we can’t flog him in to the ground this year. He was limping all over the place after the Wire game after being asked to do far too long IMO. Yes things aren’t good at the moment but they’re not worth flogging your best player for.'"
I kind of agree but at the same time disagree with what you say. But if a player is no longer capable of playing for a full 80 mins or needs to be wrapped in cotton wool to protect him, then it’s time for the player to retire or move on to something less demanding regardless of who the player is. Remember we are working within a salary cap and you can’t pay full time hours to someone for part time work.
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| That's pretty much what I said about SOL and got ripped on here for it.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "That's pretty much what I said about SOL and got ripped on here for it.'"
Your from Warrington and as such are only entitled to an opinion when it becomes your year.
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