I have occasionally seen snippets of Aussie press chat in which they talk about Sarginson as if he's a young sensation. All I can say is that I think they're in for a shock.

One good match in the last God knows how many does not a superstar make.

I won't particularly miss Charnley either. He's looked good this season - so far, but that's a poor return for the length of time he's actually been here. I also won't miss the constant 'will he leave or won't he' discussions that have surrounded him for so long. It's been self-evident for a while that playing for Wigan is not his priority.

Three-year deal offered?

Hasn't he only just signed for you?

We (Wigan) have offered Carney a 3 yr deal

Sarginson was born down-under, can't say i blame him for going as he may have family out there, but i don't know. Josh tweets more about clothes, and to and about RU, so it's no surprise. Good luck to em both. Tho it's only just confirmed to us, no doubt the club will have know for sometime in Josh's case, and all were aware of Sarginsons intentions. Be interesting to see where we go from here, but then, it's always interesting to watch the comings and goings...

The Wigan merry-go-round will be the talk of the season (for us) once again....

Justin Carney to Wigan for 2017 was a done deal before this season even began.
My understanding is that Cas can choose a straight swap for Hampshire or receive an already-agreed fee.

Humble apols. Thought you were a Devil.

I've never attended a fans forum but I'd like to ask Ian Lenegan why Leeds can keep hold of the likes of Hall, Watkins and Hardaker while we continually lose so many players. If they'd come through the Wigan system no doubt they'd all be in the NRL by now.

Makinson is a (decent) finisher full stop. Offers nothing in any part of the pitch other than from two yards out. We expect (and get) more from our wingers.

Carney is exciting but makes a lot of errors like dropping the ball in his own 20, giving away penalties even when he has the ball himself. Can we live with the added excitement and put up with the errors? (Depends on whether we are winning really)

Tom Johnstone is the flavour of the month. And like a previous poster (in another thread) said, let's leave Wakey to build their own team.

It's been a while since we last bought a winger (Pat Richards & Mark Calderwood in the same season IIRC?). Should be interesting.

Do you know that they would go if offered the chance, or even if they have been..? You seem to assume they would go if offered the chance. Perhaps these players have been kept at the expense of squad players... Granted its paid off, but they look a little thin on the ground now they have had injuries.

Good luck the boys, I would much rather have seen Charnley stay in the sport but he gets an easier life and the chance to fill his pockets. Will he fit in RU or like many, his face just won't fit? Being all the way over in Salford means he can't play the "I'm homesick" card to escape.

Sarg has lost some pace, but he's had a serious hamstring problem to recover from. Hopefully he will do well over in Aus.

Plus none of that Leeds trio looks like a good name to quote at present.

I'm not surprised Charnley wants to leave. His form dipped after Sam left and he was publicly slated by SW. There were players in worse form than he was at the time who were never dropped and who seemed bullet proof from all criticism from Wane. Injury then took hold and Manfredi could not be dropped.
I'm gutted the lad is leaving because as he has proved on many occasions he is a real game breaker. I really hope he smashes it in RU and I hope our recruitment is good!

Sad to Charnley go.
A few years back I thought he was a top class winger who was confident of taking his opposite winger on and going on the outside which had become a lost art of the position.
Unsure as to why he had lost his way in the past two years but in all likelyhood there will be several reasons for this.
Not totally convinced about Carney but that may be due to my aversion to brute strength at the expense of everything else in a back. If there is another Pat Richards out there then that would be ideal for me.
I haven't seen the last couple of games yet but believe that Sarginson played well. Although not a natural ball player from fullback he does give us some go forward. A change of environment may do him the world of good.
I would be very disappointed if we don't recruit externally to replace both of these lads.

A shame to see Charnley go because on his day he's one of the best British wingers in the game. We haven't seen the best of him for a couple of years until recently but he's looking fitter, more interested and close to his best at the minute. For his replacement the easy answer is Burgess. He's too good for reserve grade and not getting a look in at the Roosters, plus he plays in one of the positions we have tons of good options in at international level, so if he wants to keep his England place he needs to be playing regular SL or NRL.

Sarg has been marmite with a lot of fans ever since we signed him. I personally think he is much better suited to the fullback role than he is at centre, but he doesn't offer the creativity or ball playing skills that you get from Sam. I don't see how we'd have fitted Sam, Oli and Sarg in a first choice 17 so it's probably a blessing in disguise that he's going. Plus I think a lot of us have suspected he was always using Wigan as a 3 season stepping stone to RU/NRL, which has been pretty much confirmed in the press release.