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Hopefully that last kick from the touch line can give him confidence going forward.
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The one he pinged from the touchline shows he's capable. Hell of a drop goal as well.
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"The one he pinged from the touchline shows he's capable. Hell of a drop goal as well.'"
You are probably right, but we have a hell of a prospect in Hampshire. I just don't think he should be brought in with the kicking responsibility as well, right from the start. Interesting one for management. |
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It's early days yet I'd carry on working with him whilst we know Charnley's quite a poor kicker as well. Don't forget he would have needed to get all 6 for us to win
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"You are probably right, but we have a hell of a prospect in Hampshire. I just don't think he should be brought in with the kicking responsibility as well, right from the start. Interesting one for management.'"
Some players would not bat an eye at having that job given to them regardless of age. The confidence of youth and all that. As you say one for the management but if he was up for it they would be daft to rule it out IMO. That is the kind of mistake I'd expect from Noble. |
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He did kick 120 but that was from 179 attempts giving him about a 66% success rate and his degree of success varied quite widely (just as it has for Charnley who would most likely take over from Smith if/when someone does). I don't want to knock a young player who will still be developing physically but that at the moment is not the sort of success rate that screams "make me the first team goal kicker" even if Hampshire was deemed up to the rigours of a whole season in the first team. While that is a better rate of success than we have had from Smith so far it is probably not so great a level of improvement as to warrant overexposing Hampshire to first team games, along with adding the pressure of goal kicking on top. Particularly when we already have another first team regular who could take over or share goal kicking responsibility with Smith in the shape of Charnley.
With both Harris and Deacon in the coaching setup you would hope that we can either get one of Smith or Charnley to significantly improve their accuracy or we could at least be able to work out the strengths and weaknesses of both to allow them to share the duties a la Gill and Stephenson as somebody suggested the other day.
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He did kick 120 but that was from 179 attempts giving him about a 66% success rate and his degree of success varied quite widely (just as it has for Charnley who would most likely take over from Smith if/when someone does). I don't want to knock a young player who will still be developing physically but that at the moment is not the sort of success rate that screams "make me the first team goal kicker" even if Hampshire was deemed up to the rigours of a whole season in the first team. While that is a better rate of success than we have had from Smith so far it is probably not so great a level of improvement as to warrant overexposing Hampshire to first team games, along with adding the pressure of goal kicking on top. Particularly when we already have another first team regular who could take over or share goal kicking responsibility with Smith in the shape of Charnley.
With both Harris and Deacon in the coaching setup you would hope that we can either get one of Smith or Charnley to significantly improve their accuracy or we could at least be able to work out the strengths and weaknesses of both to allow them to share the duties a la Gill and Stephenson as somebody suggested the other day.
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I'm sure on one of the kicks it looked like bowen was going to take it, yhink it was in the second half
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Wondering how many games kicking could cost us this season unless it improves gradually
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Kicking the conversion off the touchline at 2 points down with a few mins left shows it's not nerves that's a problem. He just needs time IMO.'"
Correct. He keeps his nerve and doesn't bottle it. Same as the drop goal under immense pressure - yet he delivered. You know there were times last season when Pat's kicking was well below 80%.
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Please don't try and blame yesterday's loss on Smith's goal kicking. Yesterday's loss was down to: Ill-discipline, ridiculous handling errors and awful edge defence.
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Get Hampshire kicking, he converted a lot at the Leeds u19 grand final and going off what I've heard he was doing this all season in the under 19s.
We took Richards for granted in the kicking department, you were classing every try as 6 points before he'd even set up for the kick.
If natty carries on missing it's gonna cost us big at some point, yeh only 3 games in but we with a good kicker we would have took the points home yesterday and not lost in the last 30 seconds by 5 points.
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| Quote Bluenosewarrior="Bluenosewarrior"Please don't try and blame yesterday's loss on Smith's goal kicking. Yesterday's loss was down to: Ill-discipline, ridiculous handling errors and awful edge defence.'"
Quite, but there's no getting away from the fact that we are likely to convert less kicks now than before. As John Kear said on Sky last week, the trophy winning sides have an 80% kicker in their line up. Let's hope Smith turns into one. |
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