crusaders are getting crowds and results on a par with cas and salford .
i feel crusaders have just as much claim to a future as cas and salford, so long as they have decent management. espy if they can use the scorpions to develop a s wales development area.

london still havent kicked on after 20+ years, and i fear more for them as a long term venture.

That is more than they had for the same last year though I bet. Probably around 3.5k 3.75k home fans. It's a start.

Cumbria has been tried and failed, they need to get there own house in order and make some decisions and take a hit by losing teams to produce 1 and they may be ready in 2015.

How Widnes is expansion is beyond me.

Crusaders crowds are already up 185% (so almost trebled) and they have local rivals (it's not that far down the M6!) Wigan, Warrington & St Helens all to visit there yet. Thats very encouraging. Still early days at Wrexham though, they are three home games behind Wigan at the moment.

Sounding good then

It is early days but being almost local to them there is more interest than I thought there would be.

When my son's RU team played at Wrexham a few weeks ago I noticed in the bar after the match a little lad carefully putting all his Crusader's stuff such as a poster, match program and so on into his bag. Hardly evidence of a core support I know but I thought it was very encouraging to see this at the local RU club. He'd obviously been taken along and had already adopted them as his team.

Dave

i think we need a team in scotland.
weve been selling the game with CC finals at murrayfield, and magic weekends, so its the logical next step imo.

hamilton accademicals hammers sounds good to me

How long before Leigh and the pies do the same.

Nice one Conroy

but Lactics will be relegated and playing at LSV by then.

More seriously, though, the struggling heartland clubs have had 100 years to get their acts together, so I think the expansion clubs deserve a bit more time yet.

Think it might be [sizeSIX[/size years now that people have been saying that

So managing to keep the game alive for 100yrs counts for nothing?

Depends on the extent of one's ambition, I guess. Playing in a hundred-year-old stadium in front of a few hundred spectators barely qualifies as alive, IMO.

A dig at the fact that Crusaders are now only 30 miles from Widnes or whatever it is and that there is so many Yorkshire teams clumped together hardly needed all of those is it?