Doesn't say much for Widdop then!!

He must be shíte then my grandma could get a game ahead of those 2!

I wasn't suggesting he did anything special, just some vids I found. He is always backing up though and he came into the line well creating tries. No wonder he is so good though behind that defence.

2 and 10 really stood out, class players, 6 also looks brilliant.

How we can make any comparison to Phelps or Briscoe is beyond me. Most people have formed opinions based on a couple of you tube videos of him and stats from a reserve competition. What a bunch of moppets we are on this forum sometimes.

Thank god someone else has noticed.

The videos are just to have a look at him, it doesn't mean I suggest we sign him, but i would back Maguire if he did. He is a highly rated player, I am not basing my opinion on a video though.

Why on earth would we go for Widdop.

We have equally as good at the club already in the reserves. Briscoe suggestion was inkeeping with the wigan theme.

Personally i think we may move pat to full back and give ainscough a starting wing spot with vievers, thornley charnley or marsh providing the depth in 2011.

God NO! He can take a high ball thats it. His positioning has been put to shame by Phelps, he can't return for poop! Keep Pat in his best position, don't move him just to 'do a job'.

he can't return for poop! Keep Pat in his best position, don't move him just to 'do a job'.

I didnt think pat did a bad job as a full back.

Widdop is being tipped for an International call up sooner rather than later, he is young non quota and off contract.

We do not have a natural top standard fullback at the club in my opinion.

I appreciate he is an unknown quantity by us in the UK, but were our coach the man that helped develop him and more than likely knows his game in and out willing to bring him to the club I would be more than happy.

It cannot have been easy for him as a Brit to be named in the junior Australian Club team of the year and also score the match winning try in the Grand Final, lets be honest the lad is clearly talented. The fact that he is young and British are also real draws.

If Maguire is as good as it seems he may be. Im excited by how he will develop Phelps game, he was one of our best players last season, is clearly the best fb at the club and has some skill with ball in hand.

Why oh why people keep going on about the fullback position is beyond me.

Centre & Prop are two that come to mind as more pressing issues for the next couple of seasons.

The reason that i point out the availability of a fullback is that Phelps is on a 1 year deal, and we will have to fit the reduced quota for 2011. I think a Prop is a priority but he will come from overseas and take a quota spot, as will no doubt a centre if we need one.

I like Phelps but he needs to be a top player to earn a quota spot, if there is a young British alternative available and our coach deems him up to the standard allowing us to use quota spots on other areas we need to strengthen for the good of the team then he is in a vulnerable position.

Indeed. As I said earlier, although Phelp's is likeable and solid, we need our overseas recruits to be of a higher calibre and Phelps ain't no Garry Jack or Andrew Ettingshausen.

I am not writing him off, and think he is capable of earning a new deal, but he needs a big season and the length of his contract extension clearly shows the club feel the same.