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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: Stu M "We’ve not got the squad depth to cope to be honest, we are particularly light in the backs. You are right about Welsby though, if he gets injured our season is done.
If we can get everyone back obviously bar Paasi and Walmsley then we may possibly sneak another GF win but any more injuries and we haven’t got the quality in the squad.
If Norman had the aggression of a Lees or a Delaney he would be amongst the best in the league as he’s a ridiculously big unit but just doesn’t run his weight.
Delaney is going to be a sensational player. At 19 to step up like he is doing is superb and when he adds more size he’s going to be exceptional.
The future is bright for English rugby when you have him and Hill coming through at such young ages.'"
It looked like a knock on on tv but I only saw it once.
Saints have another young prop Noah Stephens in the academy who looks very good.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It looked like a knock on on tv but I only saw it once.
Saints have another young prop Noah Stephens in the academy who looks very good.'"
Yeah he’s played a few for the Reserves now but I think he’s a couple of years away at least before being first team ready.
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| It does come off the Salford player but how does it end up hitting him?
Knowles has it and appears to try and pass it, but it hits the shoulder of a Salford player stood between him and the tryline.
I'm guessing the ref has given a pass rather than a lost ball, but if that's the case then it surely comes out of the hands forward?
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| Just watched it again. Definitely a pass, just depends which angle you view as to which way it's going I think, but seeing as the Salford player is ahead of him.........
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| Quote: Stu M "We’ve not got the squad depth to cope to be honest, we are particularly light in the backs. You are right about Welsby though, if he gets injured our season is done.
If we can get everyone back obviously bar Paasi and Walmsley then we may possibly sneak another GF win but any more injuries and we haven’t got the quality in the squad.
If Norman had the aggression of a Lees or a Delaney he would be amongst the best in the league as he’s a ridiculously big unit but just doesn’t run his weight.
Delaney is going to be a sensational player. At 19 to step up like he is doing is superb and when he adds more size he’s going to be exceptional.
The future is bright for English rugby when you have him and Hill coming through at such young ages.'"
We need far more than two young props for England to be successful, Australia are producing them by the bucket load. We have got to encourage more juniors into the game and cut back on the non-federation numbers.
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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| For me Saints are still the team to beat until they are beat, bookies still have them favourites for a reason.
I think Wigan and Saints will finish 2nd and 3rd in either order.
I was disheartened after our loss at Saints away a month or so ago, however with Paasi and Walmsley out and the size and athleticism of KPP, Dupree and Havard back into our team it levels it up.
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| Quote: NSW "For me Saints are still the team to beat until they are beat, bookies still have them favourites for a reason.
I think Wigan and Saints will finish 2nd and 3rd in either order.
I was disheartened after our loss at Saints away a month or so ago, however with Paasi and Walmsley out and the size and athleticism of KPP, Dupree and Havard back into our team it levels it up.'"
One thing is for sure, Saints aren’t going to roll over. Top two is very important - home advantage and a week off. I am just hoping that the Wakefield loss doesn’t come back to haunt us.
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| Plenty will come down to further injuries between now and the end of the season. If Saints got another in the front row, that would be big trouble for them. I think it was precautionary but Sironen went off again yesterday and Hopoate looks to be injured. We're obviously without some real experience in the form of Cooper and Isa and that hurts us, especially in the big games. We had Cust go off on Friday and while that isn't a huge blow in truth, we'll have to see how we go elsewhere, because there are one or two players we could really do with being available at the back end.
As things stand, Catalans are just flying along nicely, without too many issues and with them looking guaranteed a home semi, you can't see past them making the Grand Final. The only other side you could see making a real run at Old Trafford would be Leigh. It'll depend what happens at the weekend and how they pull up from it but they're not in that top 4 by chance. They have possibly the best 7,9 and 13 in the league and also the best prop in Tom Amone (and Mulhern is not a million miles behind on form).
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| Just watched Salfords first try back and there's a clear obstruction with a decoy runner. I didn't notice it at the game yesterday but if that game is on TV, that try gets disallowed in my opinion.
Rowley can moan all he wants but refs decisions go both ways. He needs to look at his full strength team being 15-2 up at HT against a team missing 9 players and they didn't score a point in the second half. He's deflecting attention from him and his players.
In relation to Sironen, he only played 20 mins then went off. He seemed to be walking okay at the end and there was no ice on his hamstring so hopefully he will be ok. Matautuia will be back on Sunday and there is a chance Batchelor and LMS will be too. There is also a slight chance of Wingfield being back for the play offs which adds some depth
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| Quote: Zig "We need far more than two young props for England to be successful, Australia are producing them by the bucket load. We have got to encourage more juniors into the game and cut back on the non-federation numbers.'"
The juniors are there. Its the pathways that are lacking. Saints and Wigan both have the blueprint in how to introduce youngsters into super league.
Other teams find a gem and then just put them straight into SL, playing as many games as possible leading to burnout, injuries, lack of confidence and disillusionment
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "The juniors are there. Its the pathways that are lacking. Saints and Wigan both have the blueprint in how to introduce youngsters into super league.
Other teams find a gem and then just put them straight into SL, playing as many games as possible leading to burnout, injuries, lack of confidence and disillusionment'"
Nowhere near enough juniors coming through. Less and less schools are playing RL. Yes, Wigan and Saints do contribute more than their fair share but we need more clubs doing so and more RL played at school - both primary and secondary.
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| Good to see young Delaney extending his contract with Saints. Let’s hope they don’t overplay him and that he starts to pick up injuries.
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| I have to say I think St Helens have shown why they're champions in recent weeks. To respond to two big defeats and two big injuries by grinding out three wins against tricky opponents is impressive. Was hoping/expecting they'd drop some points from the last two which would maybe open the door for us for 2nd place. As it is they'd have to be decent favourites for it now when you compare the two fixture lists.
Every chance it could come down to a Wigan/Saints semi final and home advantage would definitely be crucial in that one.
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| Quote: MadDogg "I have to say I think St Helens have shown why they're champions in recent weeks. To respond to two big defeats and two big injuries by grinding out three wins against tricky opponents is impressive. Was hoping/expecting they'd drop some points from the last two which would maybe open the door for us for 2nd place. As it is they'd have to be decent favourites for it now when you compare the two fixture lists.
Every chance it could come down to a Wigan/Saints semi final and home advantage would definitely be crucial in that one.'"
Whilst I don’t disagree that they have been able to grind out a couple of wins I think it is fair to say the rugby gods have looked on them favourably. They are obviously a champion team and I would expect them to be in the shake up come the seasons end but they did look vulnerable today in the second half against 12 men. I think we are looking at a Wigan/Saints semifinal but it is in our hands to get a home draw. We have only ourselves to blame if we don’t meet the top two, the Wakefield loss could be costly.
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| Quote: Zig "Whilst I don’t disagree that they have been able to grind out a couple of wins I think it is fair to say the rugby gods have looked on them favourably.'"
Swings and roundabouts - I think we were lucky to play both cup finalists between the semis and final. Agreed that the Wakefield defeat could be very costly. Leeds at home is another one that springs to mind, being 14-0 up against 12 men.
Saints do play both relegation candidates away from home in the run in which might not be easy.
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