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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: kirkstaller "You've pulled the same card, so don't criticise me for it.
You've still not presented a credible argument against the points I made. I understand that this incident involved your club, but you need to take a step back and look at the rules objectively. If that today had happened to Sinfield or McGuire I would be saying exactly the same thing.
I'm sure we will see clarification from the RFL this week. Until then, I will retire to my own board.'"
Just as an update, I asked this question to the lads at Wigan ref society via facebook, and they unanimously agreed that, although Ganson usually gets it right and had a good game overall, it should have been an 8 point try.
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[quote="boz the warrior":1udbj28j]lee briers is a nice person whoooo luck at lee forming a scrum the wire bum banger[/quote:1udbj28j]
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| Quote: Dave26 "But with all due respect, how is a player gobbing off at the referee when play is halted comparable to foul play whilst the ball is in play (when a player is scoring a try)? A fist to the head is surely an offence that warrants a penalty to be awarded, had it occured on the twenty metre line a penalty would have been given? Seems a little strange.'"
IN that case though no try would have been given. tomkins was fouled, of that we have no doubt, when he was fouled he had not scored (yet) if the ref had wanted to give a penalty he would have not been able to give the try! as the play stopped at that point.
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[quote="boz the warrior":1udbj28j]lee briers is a nice person whoooo luck at lee forming a scrum the wire bum banger[/quote:1udbj28j]
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| Quote: -Tracie- "YES!!!!
how? award a penalty fine but forfeit the try at that point because the foul happened before he scored. you can't have the best of both worlds.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: SLIMply a treble! "how? award a penalty fine but forfeit the try at that point because the foul happened before he scored. you can't have the best of both worlds.'"
Well, actually you can. That's WHY we have an 8 point try rule.
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| PENALTY TRY!
NO PENALTY TRY!
OUTRAGEOUS TELL ME MORE
As anyone mentioned that there may have been a forward pass in the Saints game on Good Friday
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| Quote: stpatricks "PENALTY TRY!
NO PENALTY TRY!
OUTRAGEOUS TELL ME MORE
As anyone mentioned that there may have been a forward pass in the Saints game on Good Friday'"
Has.
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4486_1428087820.png Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Has.'"
And the point of that was??
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| Quote: Donna "And the point of that was??'"
What is the point of education?
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4486_1428087820.png Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"
I kept the faith and I kept voting
Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand
For theirs is a land with a wall around it
And mine is a faith in my fellow man
Theirs is a land of hope and glory
Mine is the green field and the factory floor
Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers
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| Quote: Wigg'n "What is the point of education?'"
Who appointed you chief educator, because it's certainly not to patronise or humiliate! It's going to be very boring for us all for you to critique and correct every spelling and grammatical error in every post.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: SLIMply a treble! "you just don't get it do you? if tomkins had got clattered as he actually placed the ball on the ground
Does the law apply a) to the moment when the ball is grounded, or b) to the [iperiod during which[/i the ball is grounded?
Answer: "This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period."
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| Quote: Wigg'n "What is the point of education?'"
Wigg'n
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[quote="boz the warrior":1udbj28j]lee briers is a nice person whoooo luck at lee forming a scrum the wire bum banger[/quote:1udbj28j]
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Does the law apply a) to the moment when the ball is grounded, or b) to the [iperiod during which[/i the ball is grounded?
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A = B
AND I FAIL TO SEE THE POINT YOU ARE MAKING, sorry not being obtuse just cannot see what point your making.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: SLIMply a treble! "A
And therein lies the root of your misunderstanding of this law.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "And therein lies the root of your misunderstanding of this law.'"
NAH, the ball is either touching the ground or not, if it is touching the ground it is being grounded, end off.
the act of grounding is what the player does to ground it. that act must be completed in order to get 4 points.
tell me i'm wrong!
tomkins whilst being fouled was doing neither. he was falling over the line and about to ground it nothing else, hence no 8 pointer.
if the fist had made contact as the ball touched the ground (which it clearly didn't) then he'd have awarded an 8 pointer.
does any one else fancy taking sides here or is it just me and EGW argueing for the sake of it?
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