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Bradford, Hull or Celtic?

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Bradford, Hull or Celtic?'"


I'm hoping Hull. I hear they do the best press conference buffet...

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The same people who want Noble out now are the ones who will be calling for the coach's head this time next year because the people in the new set-up ( players and coaching staff) are taking time to settle and gel!!!!

This has been Wigan's problem for the last 10 years - no stability. Get off Nobby's back!

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Quote: Gezza48 "The same people who want Noble out now are the ones who will be calling for the coach's head this time next year because the people in the new set-up ( players and coaching staff) are taking time to settle and gel!!!!

This has been Wigan's problem for the last 10 years - no stability. Get off Nobby's back!'"


Last time I looked Noble's been here for three and a half years. If stability = having to accept three years of underachievement, count me out.

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Quote: Cruncher "
We seem to have this same argument each season at Wigan. We get to the tail-end, the team run into form, and it changes some people's minds about what the problems are.'"


Spot on.

We do well at the tail end and people forget about all that has gone before. They quote how we did in the playoff games and forget/ignore the fact that we lost about half our games during the league rounds. Same happens each year and the cracks are papered over, everyone thinks its fine and nothing changes.

I don't much care whether other fans are willing to accept it anymore. The only people that need to acknowledge that our trend of poor starts must stop are IL and the board. I hope that they do and that if they give Noble 1 more season to work with new signings that they have the guts to give him the boot mid season if we serve up the same early form again.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Last time I looked Noble's been here for three and a half years. If stability

And me! Noble has failed to deliver and should be looking for a new club for next year, our form overall during his reign has been terrible and a few runs in the playoffs are a pretty weak defence.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "For stability read mediocrity.

I have ambition, you obviously don't.

I've watched for the best part of 60 years.
This club means more to me than you will ever know. I've seen the Boston, Ashton, McTigue eras, followed them through the relegation to Keighley, Blackpool, Fulham etc. Don't lecture me on lack of ambition.

Stability at the moment is what we need. Give Noble one more year to let him finish the job he set out to do, and then if it hasn't happened move on.

I'm probably more fortunate than you in that I can see what's happening beneath the first team. We are going the right way as a club.

And I'll say it again because you may have missed it - I bet you wouldn't have defended Millward by using his Stains record would you?'"

No I wouldn't defend Millward because in the opposite direction to Noble , he was rarely there at reserve and academy levels and was destroying the confidence at lower levels.

Ask any of the players at academy / U 21 levels or read Radliskis book.

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We have got to have some stability, the new players are starting to perform, and the Wigan "youngsters" are improving all the time, with others learning in the reserves.
Look at Pat Richards first season and look at him now.
I was at Bridgend and remember that night well, and the day after,and the day after, but after Friday can't wait for the next two games.
Give Brian Noble a new contract, but get it sorted IL.

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Personally i think that when you know your Gaffer is looking for someone to take HIS job over on the other side of the world,Noble has carried on,and now Wigan look to have got some consistancey going,,,local derby next Friday which you could well win,,followed by a semi final,,again winnable,,,You could finish 4th ateotd......at the moment you have got momentum,and people are talking about getting rid....Wigan have a big 3 months coming up,after whats happened this season you never know.

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Quote: Gezza48 "The same people who want Noble out now are the ones who will be calling for the coach's head this time next year because the people in the new set-up ( players and coaching staff) are taking time to settle and gel!!!!

This has been Wigan's problem for the last 10 years - no stability. Get off Nobby's back!'"


That is simply not true.

There are always malcontents who will complain about anything. We see them on the terraces, we see them on this message board. But much of the disapproval aired about Noble's record at Wigan is based on a factual analysis of reality. It's not been made up.

The evidence of countless poor performances (let's not get carried away by the last quarter of each season) strongly indicates that Wigan are not as well coached as they could be. Shouting "get off Nobby's back" doesn't even start to address that very fundamental problem.

And as for 'stability' ... well that's starting to sound a shield for someone to hide behind. Nobby's been here longer than any other coach in recent times, and has easily had long enough to inject some stability. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing the word. It's way overused.

Other clubs go through regular personnel changes - both among the playing staff and the coaching staff, but that doesn't stop them challenging for honours. It's time we started doing the same.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I've watched for the best part of 60 years.
This club means more to me than you will ever know. I've seen the Boston, Ashton, McTigue eras, followed them through the relegation to Keighley, Blackpool, Fulham etc. Don't lecture me on lack of ambition.

Stability at the moment is what we need. Give Noble one more year to let him finish the job he set out to do, and then if it hasn't happened move on.

I'm probably more fortunate than you in that I can see what's happening beneath the first team. We are going the right way as a club.


No I wouldn't defend Millward because in the opposite direction to Noble , he was rarely there at reserve and academy levels and was destroying the confidence at lower levels.

Ask any of the players at academy / U 21 levels or read Radliskis book.'"


Watching the club for 60 years and going to the reserves doesn't give you some mythical power. I watched in the second division like a lot of people did, but it has absolutely no bearing on what we need to do as a club now.

I've not time for Millward but could just as easily defend him by pointing to his record at Stains to show how good a coach he his, but that has no bearing at his time at Wigan, just like Noble's record at Bradford shouldn't be used as an excuse for his Wigan record.

Noble's had nearly three years to move us on since the 2006 season and it hasn't happened. Time for some fresh ideas and a new approach.

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3 years ago this club was in a right mess, it takes a long time to sort things out, how long before Newcastle Utd will be challenging for honours again ? A long time I think.
At least we can see some improvement, the reserves unbeaten 12 months, a very good head of marketing Mick Hogan, and a team capable of beating anyone, a couple of good sighnings and some consistancy next season.

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I think Noble*s time is up,,,,Whatever happens,but it will be interesting to see who Leneghan brings in!!!!!.......Even more if Wigan do get some some silverware this season which could well happen.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Watching the club for 60 years and going to the reserves doesn't give you some mythical power. I watched in the second division like a lot of people did, but it has absolutely no bearing on what we need to do as a club now.

I've not time for Millward but could just as easily defend him by pointing to his record at Stains to show how good a coach he his, but that has no bearing at his time at Wigan, just like Noble's record at Bradford shouldn't be used as an excuse for his Wigan record.

Nobles has had nearly three years to move us on since the 2006 season and it hasn't happened. Time for some fresh ideas and a new approach.'"


Andy we will have to agree to disagree, and I don't have a problem with that, but, it was you who brought up the lack of ambition and the Millward factor.

I simply replied, with reason. And please don't patronise me over the 60 years.

I do have ambition, and care about the club. I only mentioned the reserves and academy as an indication of how the club is moving forward. Under Millward the WHOLE club would have been suffocated. As I said, read Radlinskis book and see what Noble had to contend with when he took over.
It's going to take time, and IMO Noble deserves that time.

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