FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Stuart Fielden....?
152 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member32325
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3076_1671446335.jpg
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled. For 27 - 0 you get a trophy For 75 - 0 you get sod all. Wigan had eight in a row Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg



Quote: XBrettKennyX "I think many of us feel that even if he gets to 85% of what he once was, he could be a useful addition to the squad.

The key here will be the probable reduction in his salary.

I actually don't think that he was half as bad a prop for us as many would have you believe. Sure he wasn't a world beater as he was at Bradford, but he gave many workmanlike, honest displays.

If he can rediscover that, and we can get him at the right price, then there are many worse options imo.'"


Couldn't agree more. icon_thumb.gif

pk
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2908No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2553.gif
I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league Doom and gloom, doom and gloom:2553.gif



agree. how can it hurt our squad with fielden coming back into it?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1513No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2015Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34090_1296322611.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34090.jpg



Quote: pk "agree. how can it hurt our squad with fielden coming back into it?'"


agreed

coming into the big games, I can't see anybody wanting to have Crosby/Spencer on the bench and not Fielden.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1348No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Oct 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Games/PDT_419.gif
[color=#FF4040:2teu7uxz]CHERRY AND WHITE[/color:2teu7uxz] [color=#000000:2teu7uxz]IT'S IN OUR BLOOD[/color:2teu7uxz] [color=#FF4040:2teu7uxz]ANCIENT & LOYAL[/color:2teu7uxz] [color=#000000:2teu7uxz]UNTIL WE DIE[/color:2teu7uxz] WIGAN WARRIORS CHALLENGE CUP CHAMPIONS 2011:Games/PDT_419.gif



It would lift our pack to have another experienced prop on the field going into the business end of the season.

Personally I can't wait for Stu to return, him & Coley were the cornerstones of our pack for 3 years. To lose both within 12 months has allowed us to develop the likes of Mossop & Prescott but we have been founding wanting on occasion this year when up against a tough opponent.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7531
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: XBrettKennyX "I think many of us feel that even if he gets to 85% of what he once was, he could be a useful addition to the squad.

The key here will be the probable reduction in his salary.

I actually don't think that he was half as bad a prop for us as many would have you believe. Sure he wasn't a world beater as he was at Bradford, but he gave many workmanlike, honest displays.

If he can rediscover that, and we can get him at the right price, then there are many worse options imo.'"


He used to get smashed in most collisions, even rookie props were embarrassing him - every single week.

And he's unbelievably slow in defence, quite simply a weak link in a lot of games in 2010, especially on our own line where his agility (or lack of) lets him down a lot.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner12006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6278_1381491357.jpg
[b:3ekusm3q][color=#FF0000:3ekusm3q]WIGAN RLFC[/color:3ekusm3q][/b:3ekusm3q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6278.jpg



Quote: Wigg'n "He used to get smashed in most collisions, even rookie props were embarrassing him - every single week.

And he's unbelievably slow in defence, quite simply a weak link in a lot of games in 2010, especially on our own line where his agility (or lack of) lets him down a lot.'"


You can't be talking about Fielden there? A weak link in 2010? He played himself back into the England team FFS. It was by far his best season in a Wigan shirt and he'd clearly got his head right as he aluded too on Super League Super Men.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7531
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Conroy "You can't be talking about Fielden there? A weak link in 2010? He played himself back into the England team FFS. It was by far his best season in a Wigan shirt and he'd clearly got his head right as he aluded too on Super League Super Men.'"


In defence.

Watch any games from that year.

rlE.g 1rl, rlE.g. 2rl. And these were actually the first two games I came upon on Youtube lol.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner12006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6278_1381491357.jpg
[b:3ekusm3q][color=#FF0000:3ekusm3q]WIGAN RLFC[/color:3ekusm3q][/b:3ekusm3q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6278.jpg



Quote: Wigg'n "In defence.

Watch any games from that year.

rlE.g 1rl, rlE.g. 2rl. And these were actually the first two games I came upon on Youtube lol.'"


Richards missed the first tackle. The second one I'll agree he was slow to react but it was a cracking ball from Wilkin.

His stats from that season in defence were:

Tackles: 607 Marker:89 Missed: 18 These are better than Andy Coleys of Tackles: 523 Marker: 78 Missed: 22

Only Lockers and Joel made more tackles from marker.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner12006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6278_1381491357.jpg
[b:3ekusm3q][color=#FF0000:3ekusm3q]WIGAN RLFC[/color:3ekusm3q][/b:3ekusm3q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6278.jpg



For the record, he has better attacking stats than Coley as well

Carries: 358 Metres: 2543 Av Gain: 177 Errors: 18 Offloads: 23 compared too Carries: 285 Metres: 1921 Av Gain: 140 Errors: 16 Offloads: 8

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1466No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Jun 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40493_1265331809.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40493.jpg



Quote: Conroy "For the record, he has better attacking stats than Coley as well

Carries

Tbf he played more minutes than Coley didn't he?
Coleys metres per carry was 6.74
Fieldens was 7

That's a better comparison fielden still comes out top. I think anyone that thinks Fielden would actually make our squad worse is just way off.
The only thing we should really be debating is if he's ready or not? And whether we would keep him next year. For the first if wane says he's ready then he probably is and the second we will see when he plays ha. On a lower contract similar to prescotts I would keep him for another year with an extra year clause in our favour.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29522
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10919_1322084665.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg



Fielden a bad defender?

He's had issues at points in his Wigan career with a few things but defence was never one of them. A few examples from YouTube could be sought for most players. I could pick out plenty for brilliant defenders like McIlorum and Hansen from last weeks game alone.

We can't expect him to fit straight back in and play like 2010 but it's good to have him back around the squad. He's an experienced head and I feel we need that at the moment.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner12006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6278_1381491357.jpg
[b:3ekusm3q][color=#FF0000:3ekusm3q]WIGAN RLFC[/color:3ekusm3q][/b:3ekusm3q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6278.jpg



Quote: hula89 "Tbf he played more minutes than Coley didn't he?
Coleys metres per carry was 6.74
Fieldens was 7'"


The av gain stat shows that though.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1466No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Jun 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40493_1265331809.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40493.jpg



Quote: Conroy "The av gain stat shows that though.'"


I always preferred that stat though really I can't remember why but I remember someone showing how that being good doesnt necessarily equal the other being good.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2088
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Fielden in 2010 - 102m per game; Coley in 2010 - 92m per game
7.1m per carry; 6.7m per carry
24 tackles per game; 25 tackles per game
0.9 offloads per game; 0.4 offloads per game
2.9 tackle busts per game; 1 tackle bust per game
0.7 missed tackles per game; 1 missed tackle per game.

Statistically Fielden was better than Coley in 2010 and that shouldn't be a surprise because he was almost certainly our best prop.

In the previous couple of seasons Fielden wasn't at that same standard but he was still playing at the same sort of level as Coley was. He was almost certainly not matching what you'd expect considering his wages but he was still a good player to have at that time.

If he could get back to that level of performance he would still be a good addition.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2136No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41046_1381848617.jpg
Canon EOS 60D, Canon EF 70-200mm F/4 L USM, Canon EF 50mm f1/8, Sigma10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC HSM and that's how i roll Judas Priest's Tyrant, better than anything The Killers, The Script & The Black Keys could ever come up with:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41046.jpg



It's quite funny how Fieldens stats are being used against Coleys to show how amazing Fielden is, but isn't it a bit ironic when 75% of the fans on here never wanted Coley as he wasn't Wigan standard and yet his stats are now being used as a yard stick to prove how good another player was, shouldn't it really prove that Coley was a lot better than originally thought and that Stu wasn't as good as he was in the past as he was now performing to Coley's standard eusa_think.gif

152 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
152 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.18310546875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Betting 2024
karetaker
130
3s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
HucknallLoin
9533
10s
Lisa Nandy
moto748
6
27s
Lockie Lam
Yippee try y
21
29s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38870
32s
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
2365
48s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
61136
48s
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
2872
50s
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
Swoggy Loine
98
53s
Shopping list for 2025
LeythIg
3735
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
First Half Wigan Blitz Overcomes the Leigh Leopards
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Sheffield Eagles home
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
Etan Natoli to leave Broncos at seasons end
BigTime
4
TODAY
The Black and Whites have been loaned Wigan prop for the res
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Belle Vue attendances
financialtim
2
TODAY
Lisa Nandy
moto748
6
TODAY
New Home for Hull FC
His Bobness
14
TODAY
Ellis Lingard
vastman
6
TODAY
Myler Ellis
Blackandwhit
4
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Wanderer
15
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Away
karetaker
9
TODAY
Kicking Game
Douglas Blac
13
TODAY
London Broncos Victorious Over Off-Colour Catalans Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
doc999
7
TODAY
Lockie Lam
Yippee try y
21
TODAY
Leigh h pt 2
Simba16
34
TODAY
Weve never had it so good
JONNYGIANT
3
TODAY
Leigh Away
The games af
30
TODAY
Dual Reg & Loans The Rules Explained
faxcar
8
TODAY
Salford Win the Mid Table Battle Over The Rhinos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Saints Back To Winning Ways With Big Win Over Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
First Half Wigan Blitz Overcom..
124
London Broncos Victorious Over..
463
Salford Win the Mid Table Batt..
505
Saints Back To Winning Ways Wi..
531
Hull KR Top of the League With..
646
Wakefield Trinity Back to Winn..
1058
Catalans Dragons Defeat Hull F..
897
Salford Move Closer To Play Of..
1102
Warrington Wolves Humiliate Wi..
1006
Bill Arthur Rest In Peace..
814
Rhinos Comfortably Win Scrappy..
1252
Battling Tigers Beat The Drago..
1327
Hull KR Defeat Leeds In Headin..
1423
Twelve Man Warrington Stun Sai..
1424
2024 State of Origin - Game 3 ..
1695
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.61M 2,805 80,09314,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
10:50
Souths
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
20:00
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Fri 9th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
09:00
Gold Coast
v
Cronulla
11:00
Parramatta
v
Penrith
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
17:30
LeedsW
v
WiganW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R21
20:00
Wakefield
v
Sheffield
 Sat 10th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
06:00
Canberra
v
Manly
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Brisbane
10:35
St.George
v
Canterbury
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
12:00
St.HelensW
v
FeatherstoneW
       League One 2024-R19
13:00
Cornwall
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
14:00
BarrowW
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
15:00
Leeds
v
Wigan
       Championship 2024-R21
18:00
Doncaster
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
05:00
Dolphins
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Newcastle
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
12:00
York V
v
Hudds W
       League One 2024-R19
14:00
Midlands
v
Workington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Tue 6th Aug
SL 2 Wigan28-6Leigh
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 20 398 314 84 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Betting 2024
karetaker
130
3s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
HucknallLoin
9533
10s
Lisa Nandy
moto748
6
27s
Lockie Lam
Yippee try y
21
29s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38870
32s
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
2365
48s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
61136
48s
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
2872
50s
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
Swoggy Loine
98
53s
Shopping list for 2025
LeythIg
3735
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
First Half Wigan Blitz Overcomes the Leigh Leopards
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Sheffield Eagles home
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
Etan Natoli to leave Broncos at seasons end
BigTime
4
TODAY
The Black and Whites have been loaned Wigan prop for the res
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Belle Vue attendances
financialtim
2
TODAY
Lisa Nandy
moto748
6
TODAY
New Home for Hull FC
His Bobness
14
TODAY
Ellis Lingard
vastman
6
TODAY
Myler Ellis
Blackandwhit
4
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Wanderer
15
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Away
karetaker
9
TODAY
Kicking Game
Douglas Blac
13
TODAY
London Broncos Victorious Over Off-Colour Catalans Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
doc999
7
TODAY
Lockie Lam
Yippee try y
21
TODAY
Leigh h pt 2
Simba16
34
TODAY
Weve never had it so good
JONNYGIANT
3
TODAY
Leigh Away
The games af
30
TODAY
Dual Reg & Loans The Rules Explained
faxcar
8
TODAY
Salford Win the Mid Table Battle Over The Rhinos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Saints Back To Winning Ways With Big Win Over Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
First Half Wigan Blitz Overcom..
124
London Broncos Victorious Over..
463
Salford Win the Mid Table Batt..
505
Saints Back To Winning Ways Wi..
531
Hull KR Top of the League With..
646
Wakefield Trinity Back to Winn..
1058
Catalans Dragons Defeat Hull F..
897
Salford Move Closer To Play Of..
1102
Warrington Wolves Humiliate Wi..
1006
Bill Arthur Rest In Peace..
814
Rhinos Comfortably Win Scrappy..
1252
Battling Tigers Beat The Drago..
1327
Hull KR Defeat Leeds In Headin..
1423
Twelve Man Warrington Stun Sai..
1424
2024 State of Origin - Game 3 ..
1695


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!