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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"They wouldn't have had it. The Latics fans hate us out of pure jealousy'"
Do tell. Why would Latics be jealous of Wigan rugby (apart from the players being paid on time )
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| Quote ="Conroy!"Do tell. Why would Latics be jealous of Wigan rugby (apart from the players being paid on time
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Why would a latics fan be on here when there's a football game going on?
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Why would a latics fan be on here when there's a football game going on?'"
Says it all really.
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| Quote ="Conroy!"Do tell. Why would Latics be jealous of Wigan rugby (apart from the players being paid on time
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History, notoriety, world famous. Don't think one cup win moves Latics anywhere even close. Not when they will soon be in the counties leagues where they belong. Even the Latics opposition fans ridicule you about you playing in a rugby town. The rest of the country can't be wrong can they? Just this little select group in the estates of suburban Wigan who think they are world famous.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Why would a latics fan be on here when there's a football game going on?'"
Because I didn't go the game.
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| Yes there used to be a fan called gidlowlaneblue that used to try to have a go a wigan rl forum
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| Quote ="Conroy!"Because I didn't go the game.'"
I'd start catching them now, while you can.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"History, notoriety, world famous. Don't think one cup win moves Latics anywhere even close. Not when they will soon be in the counties leagues where they belong. Even the Latics opposition fans ridicule you about you playing in a rugby town. The rest of the country can't be wrong can they? Just this little select group in the estates of suburban Wigan who think they are world famous.'"
Said cup win was seen by people WORLDWIDE. Not just in 3 countries. I would argue that the final was seen by more people on TV than the whole of our 8 in a row combined. However we can probably never prove that but if anyone can I'd be honestly interested to see the figures.
I'm a fan of both obviously so I see this with no favouritism on either side. Football is a far bigger sport than RL can ever dream to be and because of 8 years at the top table WAFC are pretty well known. Even Championship games are shown worldwide on occasion.
I went to Egypt once and whilst wearing a Wigan rugby top people started talking to me about Amr Zaki because they'd seen the word Wigan. WAFC will be known in far more countries than WRL because of the sport. Have people in Omar ever heard of WRL? They've heard of WAFC because of Ali Al Habsi. See Honduras, Ecuador, Columbia, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Barbados.
The rugby town myth is a good one. There are FAR more football fans in Wigan than rugby. Same as pretty much every town in England. They just don't support Wigan.
The hatred has nothing to do with being jealous. I'll be honest. Most of it is tin foil hat sort of stuff.
Capacity was reduced at SP but not at CP. The fact the barriers weren't fit for new H&S rules doesn't feature.
One main argument was the 91 cup tie against Liverpool that Maurice wouldn't let Latics switch to CP. The fact there was no segregation never gets mentioned.
The hatred is built on a comment from Maurice in 1985 and has grown into proper tin foil hat stuff with lies about IL's part in the administration added to it.
I can assure you however that it has nothing to do with jealousy. There is nothing to be jealous about.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'd start catching them now, while you can.'"
Save me a few quid
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'd start catching them now, while you can.'"
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| Oh Conroy there is so much wrong with your response. You have packed it with so many lies i really can't be bothered to address them all.
I like your bit about how places like Honduras and Nigeria have heard of Wigan Athletic because they had some players from there. I know where Havana is because i once bought a cigar at a wedding reception. Here is one for you, i know where abouts in Copenhagen the little mermaid is because ive had my photo next to it. I never give it a second thought though.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Oh Conroy there is so much wrong with your response. You have packed it with so many lies i really can't be bothered to address them all.
I like your bit about how places like Honduras and Nigeria have heard of Wigan Athletic because they had some players from there. I know where Havana is because i once bought a cigar at a wedding reception. Here is one for you, i know where abouts in Copenhagen the little mermaid is because ive had my photo next to it. I never give it a second thought though.'"
I never mentioned 2nd thoughts but it's a reality that if you mention the word Wigan in those places you are more likely to hear the word Athletic than Warriors. More people in those places will have wathed a single FA cup final than 8 CC finals.
I have no horse in this race though so would be interested in what you thought were lies.
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| Struggling to quote here for some reason....
The hatred is pathetic I'll be honest. The 85 comments effected about 1500 people but it's almost a right of passage now to hate the rugby. Most claim to hate the sport but then follow saints. The same people call anyone from Wigan that doesn't support Latics.
They call people who reference Latics crowds but analyse every rugby crowd and claim they're made up.
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| Quote ="Conroy!"Struggling to quote here for some reason....
The hatred is pathetic I'll be honest.'"
I know. Even a supposed moderator called "Egg" on Cockney latic told me to F**k off. At least on here, we act in a more adult manner and dont get offended when someone has a different view.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"I know. Even a supposed moderator called "Egg" on Cockney latic told me to F**k off. At least on here, we act in a more adult manner and dont get offended when someone has a different view.'"
Why do you post on there other than to "troll"?
I think every WAFC supporting non WRL fan has been banned from here btw
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| Big talk of administration over on social media. Not sure how true it is, but I don't have the energy for it again.
Those on here that know me will know I was close to it all going on last time and I wouldn't wish it on any fan of any club.
Not sure the stadium is a good buy for WRL, but I don't think we actually need to buy it. The council would just move us in if Latics went pop.
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| I was reading rumours Mal Brannigan and whoever else running the club can’t even get hold of the owners. I’m sure all sorts of rumours will go around but you’d have hoped Talal could find some time to give an update of some sort. He’s been an embarrassment from day one for me. He clearly loves to be thought of as some sort of hero but when the going’s got tough, he’s been missing in action. **Edit** I read he’s just commented that everything will be ok but there will be challenges to come. He’s at least come out of hiding. I suggest he changes the colour of the seats pronto to get back on side.
Administration this time could well be fatal. We have no players of any note to shift on. Last time we got about 20% of some players true values but the sales of Robinson, Moore, Gelhardt etc helped keep things afloat. This time if we got 20% or so of the players values, you’re talking the biggest sale being maybe to scrape together a few hundred grand for Callum Lang and there isn’t much else. Euxton was a help last time and there isn’t that to fall back on. Its an absolute shambles and it will impact on the rugby club.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I was reading rumours Mal Brannigan and whoever else running the club can’t even get hold of the owners. I’m sure all sorts of rumours will go around but you’d have hoped Talal could find some time to give an update of some sort. He’s been an embarrassment from day one for me. He clearly loves to be thought of as some sort of hero but when the going’s got tough, he’s been missing in action. **Edit** I read he’s just commented that everything will be ok but there will be challenges to come. He’s at least come out of hiding. I suggest he changes the colour of the seats pronto to get back on side.
Administration this time could well be fatal. We have no players of any note to shift on. Last time we got about 20% of some players true values but the sales of Robinson, Moore, Gelhardt etc helped keep things afloat. This time if we got 20% or so of the players values, you’re talking the biggest sale being maybe to scrape together a few hundred grand for Callum Lang and there isn’t much else. Euxton was a help last time and there isn’t that to fall back on. Its an absolute shambles and it will impact on the rugby club.'"
Exactly, hence my question as to where does this leave the Warriors? They pay £55k to use the DW, but if that money doesnt go to the stadium staff, groundsmen etc, there'll be no stadium made ready and no pitch prepared.
Perhaps its time for the stadium to be sold to a separate company so that both sporting clubs can pay £55K a game to use it, and it could also be used for events/concerts to raise additional revenue. Football/rugby fixtures alone would raise £2m a year, and at least that money would go towards the wages of the DW staff and any upkeep.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Exactly, hence my question as to where does this leave the Warriors? They pay £55k to use the DW, but if that money doesnt go to the stadium staff, groundsmen etc, there'll be no stadium made ready and no pitch prepared.
Perhaps its time for the stadium to be sold to a separate company so that both sporting clubs can pay £55K a game to use it, and it could also be used for events/concerts to raise additional revenue. Football/rugby fixtures alone would raise £2m a year, and at least that money would go towards the wages of the DW staff and any upkeep.'"
It’s a concern. They managed to keep things ticking last time just about but if it happened again, I’m not sure they could for an extended period. We were much deeper in to the season last time as well and then had the off season, where we wouldn’t be using the stadium anyway. This time we’ve played 2 games, so I certainly wouldn’t be wishing administration on the football club if I were a rugby fan, not even if there is ill feeling there.
Longer term we’ll see what happens. The stadium is too big for both clubs 95% of the year. They’ve never had things like concerts on and I always wonder if that’s because of how bad the pitch is. It gets rough anyway, so to start putting concerts on might be a no go.
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| The major difference in admin now and last time would be that fans are allowed in the ground so there would be SOME income.
Not sure how things work, but the stadium staff such as bar staff, stewards and cleaners etc are all employed by Sodexo and not the football club. I presume the stadium staff they refer to are the likes of marketing for the club, ticket office.
From what I'm led to believe, it won't be administration but there are certainly problems with how they choose to manage the money and that needs to change otherwise this will be an even more regular occurrence.
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| Quote ="Conroy!"The major difference in admin now and last time would be that fans are allowed in the ground so there would be SOME income.
Not sure how things work, but the stadium staff such as bar staff, stewards and cleaners etc are all employed by Sodexo and not the football club. I presume the stadium staff they refer to are the likes of marketing for the club, ticket office.
From what I'm led to believe, it won't be administration but there are certainly problems with how they choose to manage the money and that needs to change otherwise this will be an even more regular occurrence.'"
Fingers crossed. To have this delay on wages for a 4th time is appalling and people have lost trust in them. It looks extremely likely we’re heading back to league one and the time may be to cut the cloth accordingly. That’s a real issue for Latics fans who started to follow them from the Prem onwards because they still see them as a club with that sort of standing. Based on history and fan base the club is a league one (at best) or league two club and only had the Prem days on the back of Dave Whelans investment. The empty heads who called for Leam Richardsons head are the type who won’t stand for cutting the wage bill right back and being happy to stay in the lower leagues for a while and try to build from there. He was doing as well as he could with a squad not good enough for the Championship (but obviously being paid like they are).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Fingers crossed. To have this delay on wages for a 4th time is appalling and people have lost trust in them. It looks extremely likely we’re heading back to league one and the time may be to cut the cloth accordingly. That’s a real issue for Latics fans who started to follow them from the Prem onwards because they still see them as a club with that sort of standing. Based on history and fan base the club is a league one (at best) or league two club and only had the Prem days on the back of Dave Whelans investment. The empty heads who called for Leam Richardsons head are the type who won’t stand for cutting the wage bill right back and being happy to stay in the lower leagues for a while and try to build from there. He was doing as well as he could with a squad not good enough for the Championship (but obviously being paid like they are).'"
I've just posted on the thread on Warriors fans
the tweet from the chairmon, just seems so blaze to me, virtually it'll be reet, but how can it be when he hasnt paid staff on time for the 4th time in a season, after just posting a significant loss (albeit they say it was planned and met what the EFL were expecting)
I feel sorry / sympathy for the genuine fans who have been there for years watching them through thick and thin. I know quite a few, and whilst we dont always see eye to eye on our respective clubs, i certainly dont want to see them going through this again if it gets to administration
as i've posted i think on here and ont other forum, i have no interest in football in any way shape or form, fell out with it many years ago, and just find it boring to watch (hence dont watch it). But, this has a direct impact on Wigan Rugby, so watching with interest
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| Quote ="The pieman"I've just posted on the thread on Warriors fans
the tweet from the chairmon, just seems so blaze to me, virtually it'll be reet, but how can it be when he hasnt paid staff on time for the 4th time in a season, after just posting a significant loss (albeit they say it was planned and met what the EFL were expecting)'"
He's either an incompetent fool who is out of his depth, or a liar.
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