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Quote: jonh "I personally don’t get the clamour to move Liam Byrne on. I think he is doing a solid job and went well on the weekend.

His development hasn’t moved on as much as I expected this year but let’s not forget he is still very young in Prop terms and also had a vastly reduced off season due to his involvement in the World Cup.

If we were to let him go at this stage I’m certain we would come to regret it in a couple of seasons time.'"


Absolutely correct. He won't be costing the earth and he's having his first real blip, in a young career, playing in possibly the toughest position on the field for younger players. If you're going to bring young prop forwards through and support them through the ups and downs, around the ages of 20-24, you then want to reap the benefits of them coming in to their prime. The only thing Byrne should not be IMO is a guaranteed starter but his place in the squad should be safe. The squad hasn't been strong enough to push him for his place but it should be going forward and he will need to produce the goods to get a place in the 17.

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Quote: Zig "Still not good enough.'"


Why isn't it? It was a nothing slap and very over zealous by the [insert expletive] with the whistle.

What's not good enough is that any type of biff has been taken out of the game. Wigan Vs Leigh, there should be some tension and rough play.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Why isn't it? It was a nothing slap and very over zealous by the [insert expletive] with the whistle.

What's not good enough is that any type of biff has been taken out of the game. Wigan Vs Leigh, there should be some tension and rough play.'"


It’s not good enough because it was extremely unprofessional and lead to a try.

As captain he needed to do better in that situation.

This isn’t park rugby on a Saturday afternoon in front of 20 blokes and a couple of dogs.

This is the elite level of the sport and he broke the rules of the game (regardless of what yours or my personal feelings are about them) in a blatant way, even worse it was late in the tackle count I believe.

Luckily it is an isolated incident and seems very out of character for a usually very level headed player.

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Quote: jonh "I personally don’t get the clamour to move Liam Byrne on. I think he is doing a solid job and went well on the weekend.

His development hasn’t moved on as much as I expected this year but let’s not forget he is still very young in Prop terms and also had a vastly reduced off season due to his involvement in the World Cup.

If we were to let him go at this stage I’m certain we would come to regret it in a couple of seasons time.'"

Way too early to be talking about letting him go. He just needs taking out of the firing line for a couple of weeks to recharge and I reckon we'll start seeing the best of him. We've been saying how we've been suffering for having had too much disruption to the pack this season; well he's probably suffered more than most as he's been one of the few constants. Put him in with Havard, Ellis and Dupree after a bit of a rest and I'm sure he'll come good.

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Quote: stpatricks "I went watching the TAG rugby after the Leigh game, some of the squad players were doing some training with Leuluai on the track, Hill was there and he looks a similar build to Partington, I wouldn't be moving Byrne on in the hope that Hill breaks through next season.'"


He’s much bigger than Oli.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Why isn't it? It was a nothing slap and very over zealous by the [insert expletive] with the whistle.

What's not good enough is that any type of biff has been taken out of the game. Wigan Vs Leigh, there should be some tension and rough play.'"


Because he gave a senseless penalty away which resulted in us conceding a try. I’m all for a bit of biff but the laws no longer allow it.

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Quote: jonh "I personally don’t get the clamour to move Liam Byrne on. I think he is doing a solid job and went well on the weekend.

His development hasn’t moved on as much as I expected this year but let’s not forget he is still very young in Prop terms and also had a vastly reduced off season due to his involvement in the World Cup.

If we were to let him go at this stage I’m certain we would come to regret it in a couple of seasons time.'"


Spot on Jon. There is no chance of Liam moving on, Rads rates him highly. If Byrne can recreate his form from last season he his a significant asset.

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I see Byrnes the new "insert many names from the past" scapegoat

That other thread should have been titled "Do the fans need a Reality check"?

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Byrne to be rested on Friday according to Peet today. He’s said he’s been playing with pain killing injections for weeks now. When people talk about binning him off, the full picture is always needed before going to extremes like that.

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I see the wagons are circling around other opinions again on here. Byrne is an experienced prop now, not some rookie like Hill or Nsemba. He’s not been upto the job this year and week after week has been part of veiled criticism from Peet about the lack of intensity from our starting front row. I’m glad he’s being given some time out to recover from injuries he’s been supposedly carrying but then that brings us round to Peet’s use of the squad and trust in players. Can you blame people for being annoyed with Byrne’s efforts in defence last week?

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Quote: DannyT "I see the wagons are circling around other opinions again on here. Byrne is an experienced prop now, not some rookie like Hill or Nsemba. He’s not been upto the job this year and week after week has been part of veiled criticism from Peet about the lack of intensity from our starting front row. I’m glad he’s being given some time out to recover from injuries he’s been supposedly carrying but then that brings us round to Peet’s use of the squad and trust in players. Can you blame people for being annoyed with Byrne’s efforts in defence last week?'"


He’s been a good prop for us for a few seasons now but hasn’t been given the correct support around him, so it’s not been easy. He’s had the first real dip in form I’ve seen from him recently and it’s now come to light he’s been playing injured.

You question Peet for not trusting others but who could he realistically pick? Hill and Nsemba have been in plenty of 17’s together, so could he go one further than that and put Makin in? He’d have been crucified for that by some. I get he didn’t bring Hill on in the semi and that was an error IMO but it just looks a simple case of a guy playing injured because he’s had to, struggling for form and then getting pelters without us knowing the full picture. Questioning his form is fine, I’ve done it myself but questioning his future at the club was a step too far I believe.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He’s been a good prop for us for a few seasons now but hasn’t been given the correct support around him, so it’s not been easy. He’s had the first real dip in form I’ve seen from him recently and it’s now come to light he’s been playing injured.

You question Peet for not trusting others but who could he realistically pick? Hill and Nsemba have been in plenty of 17’s together, so could he go one further than that and put Makin in? He’d have been crucified for that by some. I get he didn’t bring Hill on in the semi and that was an error IMO but it just looks a simple case of a guy playing injured because he’s had to, struggling for form and then getting pelters without us knowing the full picture. Questioning his form is fine, I’ve done it myself but questioning his future at the club was a step too far I believe.'"


This might explain it https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wi ... tty-busted
Quote: NickyKiss "He’s been a good prop for us for a few seasons now but hasn’t been given the correct support around him, so it’s not been easy. He’s had the first real dip in form I’ve seen from him recently and it’s now come to light he’s been playing injured.

You question Peet for not trusting others but who could he realistically pick? Hill and Nsemba have been in plenty of 17’s together, so could he go one further than that and put Makin in? He’d have been crucified for that by some. I get he didn’t bring Hill on in the semi and that was an error IMO but it just looks a simple case of a guy playing injured because he’s had to, struggling for form and then getting pelters without us knowing the full picture. Questioning his form is fine, I’ve done it myself but questioning his future at the club was a step too far I believe.'"


This might explain it https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wi ... tty-busted


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If we’re giving Eckersley a shot, now would seem the time. We need to win the majority of our games, so there won’t be many opportunities after this.

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