That's interesting. So if we beat them to win the Grand Final are we the better side in your eyes? What exactly would it take for you to regard us as the better side?

I think I’ll regard us as the better side when we go in to games against them as the favourites. I don’t think we’ve been favourites with the bookies in a game against them since Waney left. The bookies aren’t daft and aren’t biased either way.

We could win a Grand Final against them and still not be regarded as the overall better team IMO. There are just too many variables. Injuries, suspensions, a bounce of a ball or dare we say it, a red card in the first 5 minutes! Saints beat us in the 2014 Grand Final for example but nobody could convince me that they were a better side than us overall.

so have we decided who is the bestest team yet?

Ashton Bears

Huddersfield, absolutely battered us in the cup final

This,it is Stains that need to close the gap as we are the only ones to win a trophy this year

Big game for us on Sunday now. If we beat Wakefield that gap is definitely closing to Wigan.

You’re better than that Stu , big lesson for Wigan tonight, similar to Magic.. all valuable stuff come September hopefully. One of those days that happened under both Maguire and Wane. As I’ve said before, rightly or wrongly, each regular season game is worth 2 points. What really matters is playing we’ll come play off time.

The other difference I feel is as Peet alluded to last night. We rarely get outworked. The games we have lost this season have been by 2 points apart from the Castleford one when we played the Academy.

Wigan have been well beaten by Leeds and Catalans and lost by 10 points or so to Hudds, Hull and Saints.

Thanks for the ref,but you see as CC holders we have still won more than you lot this season.
Now I will state this clearly for the hard of understanding who ever wins the Grand Final are the best team this season.
You have won jack this year we have won the only trophy on offer what is not to understand.

You can lose by 2 points or 60 it is still a loss.
And yes Wigan got mullered by Leeds and deserved to lose,I am ok with that we re-group and move on.
If, this is the question-Wigan win the Grand final (got to get there) will we have closed the gap or do we have to win the thing 3 years on the trot to do that ?

If you win the GF then clearly you will be the better team this season. You’ll have done the double so it would be hard to say otherwise.

However answer this- when Warrington beat us in the CC Final in 2019 where they a better team than us from Aug- Oct until we won the GF?

Why is this thread even a thing. Jesus, glorified dick measuring contest

Question back to you-who won the CC 2019 , then yes they were the better team as they had won the only trophy ironically against you,so who were the better team at that point Wire or your good self ?
When you won the final you did indeed become the best team that season.