Always seems to stay down after a hit when other players would get up again.

Obviously he's tough as all players are, but seems to enjoy getting treatment.

Lomax falls in that bracket. Including this weekend and the last regular season game against Saints

Yes, I'd say Lomax more than Fages.

Back to the thread topic;

If we had a forward like Oledski he’d change our pack dynamic. Our props aren’t bad but equally they aren’t great. Put a Walmsley/Lees/Paasi/Watts in our team and we have a scintillating squad.

A prop (or two) should be the highest on our agenda

It would massively. I look at Bullock and I thought he was better tonight but Oledzki has found that switch inside himself to push and push through games but Bullock never has. He’s a good prop but has the tools to be a top prop. Young Havard has huge potential and he’s the best suited to starting at the moment and he’d be capable of playing long minutes. He’s only going to get better and better and then you have the aggressors in Singleton and Partington. If you swap Clubb tonight with Oledzki, it’s a 30-40 point Wigan win.

Harvard is out Oledski.

We need 1 experienced quality prop.

We find him we win SL.

I actually think out props went ok tonight to be honest.

Clearly a minority.

I look at our props and aside from Clubb they’re all bringing stuff to the table in every game (Clubb was good in his second spell but you just know his first spell will be more the norm) but we just miss a real battering ram in the middle. Somebody who is all elbows and knees and can get us off the line. If you put that in to the side then you’re covering all bases in that area and you suddenly have a really impressive 5 prop rotation.

I hope they’re searching high and low both here and in the NRL and through to the reserve comps over there and the Championship and below here.

I agree, Havard IMO is the best young prop in Superleague, his metres post contact are very impressive, but he'll be in Aus in two or three years, they've been after him since he was seventeen.

Oh for a Craig Smith type prop?

I know Mik has been courted by the NRL since he was 17, just signed a long term contract at Leeds.

One thing they seem to do well is retain their young talent.

He is but still a year or 2 off fully developing (which is a hugely encouraging thing considering how well he’s doing now).

We need to keep hold of Havard and alongside signing a prop as described his retention should be on the agenda too. It always baffles me as to why we let our quality players to go to the NRL whereas other clubs tie them down to long term contracts but that’s another topic all together

Lees ?? You are joking surely ?

We will never see the best of havard, some NRL side will!!

Lees in the same sentence as Walmsley or now Oledzki is an insult to those lads. I’m not sure where Lees gets his rep from on his career to date. Easy to handle with the ball and a real plastic hard man.

Wouldn’t swap any of our young props for him.

Oledski is quality, absolute unit and has the skills and attitude too.

Last night he made 44 tackles, 188m and 22 carries

Singleton made 20 tackles, 60m and 11 carries
Bullock 15 tackles, 102m and 11 carries
Havard 35 tackles, 86m and 13 carries
Clubb 15 tackles, 58m and 6 carries

Yet some people think our props are just there to defend and for their 'mobility'

Absolute rubbish, Oledski is miles ahead of Havard.