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Quote: apollosghost "Bulk him up a bit for us, just my opinion but I don't think he's got the pace to make it as a half back but I reckon he could become a cracking ball handling 13.'"
some desperation in trying to find his best position going on here, will he fit the warrior mascot suit ?

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the guy is garbage, looks quite creative in average teams playing at average levels.

Has a lot of errors in his game.

we should have saved the money and not signed him.

prove me wrong please Sammut

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This signing is an interesting move from Lam.

He seems so adamant to add 'flair and creativity' to our team he is signing a player who plays more off the cuff disregarding other elements of his play and style. Under Wane we were very structured, same can be said for Madge, was it boring and lifeless at times? Yes. But was it successful? Yes actually.

I was hoping for a middle ground, an increase in creativity adding to what we have, however I worry we might lose our way with Sammut and Williams as our 6 and 7.

I don't know if this signing is Lam getting his way, OR Lam's hands being tied knowing he only has a small budget to play with.

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Quote: Jizzer "He did OK at Wakey a few seasons ago. Was one of them players who was capable something brilliant out of nowhere but at the same time a possible liability. Didn't play a whole lot for us then eventually just stopped getting picked all together then shipped out on loan - rumors were due to his attitude. Maybe it was something to do with him apparently doing a crap in someones boot...'"


No he didn't mate he was dreadfull - he stopped one season and was on DR at Fev and Workington for much of that. Sorry but you're miles out. icon_surprised.gifops:

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Team One

Hardaker
Manfredi
Gildart
Sarginson
Davies
Williams
Leuluai
Clubb
Powell
Flower
Farrell
Greenwood
O'Loughlin


Team two

Escare
Marshall
Hankinson
Forsythe
Burgess
Shorrocks
Sammut
Navarrette
Ganson
Tautai
Wells
Isa
Hamlin

To fit in somewhere

Bullock
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Field etc

That squad doesn't look too bad to me. I don't see any other team with that depth.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Team One

Hardaker
Manfredi
Gildart
Sarginson
Davies
Williams
Leuluai
Clubb
Powell
Flower
Farrell
Greenwood
O'Loughlin


Team two

Escare
Marshall
Hankinson
Forsythe
Burgess
Shorrocks
Sammut
Navarrette
Ganson
Tautai
Wells
Isa
Hamlin

To fit in somewhere

Bullock
Partington
Kibula
Byrne
Mullen
Paisley
Barnes
Field etc

That squad doesn't look too bad to me. I don't see any other team with that depth.'"


I don't see depth as an issue. it's high quality in key areas, i.e. a 7.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I don't see depth as an issue. it's high quality in key areas, i.e. a 7.'"


Wigan didn't lose a game in 2018 with #6 Williams, #7 Leuluai and #9 Powell.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan didn't lose a game in 2018 with #6 Williams, #7 Leuluai and #9 Powell.'"


True. So do you not think we needed a new 7?

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Sorry i haven't been on here a while!, This signings worry's me i understand the club is cost cutting but this doesn't get bums back on seats. Younger players need to be inspired to play the game. The quality is there but you need to deep in your pockets for quality Johnson would of been he ideal person to get. It would of generated a lot of interest and get the younger players wanting to play the game. But it is bang average at best.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "True. So do you not think we needed a new 7?'"

I think we need some competition for that spot. However I know that the club have great hopes for Harry Smith but guess it's a year or two too soon for him at the moment.
Lam won't have seen him in training yet as he is with the England Academy team at present.
I have a feeling that under the reduced interchange rule he will use Sammut off the bench.
As I said in a previous post he wouldn't have been my 1st choice and I suspect Wigan really thought that Lams son would have been here for a year at least.
Wigan lost a lot of money in 2018, so it was inevitable that the purse strings would be tightened.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I think we need some competition for that spot. However I know that the club have great hopes for Harry Smith but guess it's a year or two too soon for him at the moment.
Lam won't have seen him in training yet as he is with the England Academy team at present.
I have a feeling that under the reduced interchange rule he will use Sammut off the bench.
As I said in a previous post he wouldn't have been my 1st choice and I suspect Wigan really thought that Lams son would have been here for a year at least.
Wigan lost a lot of money in 2018, so it was inevitable that the purse strings would be tightened.'"


While your comment regarding the successes of Williams and Tommy at 6 and 7 were true, I feel it's a very black and white view which when you dig a little deeper realise there's a wealth of factors to why we were winning during that period, factors which don't dictate that we don't need a new 7.

For example, for me Tomkins at FB offered different elements to our attack, elements which will be missing as Hardaker operates differently from FB. As I stated, and you pointed out via your listening 2 full teams, depth isn't a problem, what is missing is a quality 7 who will offer creativity and can run a game, I feel we're still lacking quality in that area. Is Sammut the answer? I've not seen anything from him in his entire career to suggest he will be. Doesn't mean he can't surprise us, but would have anyone realistically pushed to sign Sammut? I doubt it.

If money is an issue for signings we honestly need to examine how we run our business. Apart from Hardaker and Greenwood our last few signings have been from the championship while others recruit from the NRL.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Cast your minds back to 2010 and we had exactly the same response to the signing of Paul Deacon. "What do we need hiim for", "no better than we already have" and "is this the best we can do" abounded on these boards. I was one of a very few voices who said it could turn out to be a very good signing and look how that turned out!

So I'm going to say it again; "this could turn out to be a very good signing"*






*Well, it worked last time! O/t but are you sure about Deacon? I seem to recall people being generally positive about his return

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Meanwhile, Drinkwater is about to sign for Hull KR for a lot less than £150k.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Meanwhile, Drinkwater is about to sign for Hull KR for a lot less than £150k.'"


As much as I was against the Sammut signing, I prefer him to Drinkwater who is a slightly better version of Josh Woods.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "As much as I was against the Sammut signing, I prefer him to Drinkwater who is a slightly better version of Josh Woods.'"


Drinkwater is one of the most over rated players in SL - his entire reputation hangs on an 8 game purple patch.

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