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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "What's worrying for me is Wane's ideas to correct poor performances.
All he seems to do is rotate Hampshire and Bowen, neither get back into the team on merit, but because the other has played poorly. FWIW I feel sorry for these two who are the two who seem to be targeted, not the likes of Sarg (for example) who has played as poorly as anyone in defence recently).
I don't think some of the lads are managed effectively and at times playing them in different positions is detrimental to their career, with this their not having a fair run in their chosen position.
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Gelling was signed as a centre. Yet was played on the wing and second row before a run in the centres, with this he only played sporadically due to not being able to play on a duel, the dropped for poor performances, I don't know how he was meant to step up and do a good job under such circumstances.
Hughes was (and still is a SR) came through as a SR then turned into a centre. Hansen is injured, so instead of giving Hughes game time in the centres (a position he's new to) he's moved back into the pack, Thornley steps into the centres and Hughes is ultimately dropped for HH when he returns. All in all Hughes development is mismanaged.
Hampshire, always a 6, now played as a 1 in SL, dropped for poor performances in a position he's learning in the big league when he was never a 1.
Powell, always a HB, not rotated as a 9 or a 7 (depending on what day it is) not having a good run in his chosen position.
Williams is in exactly the same situation as Powell.
All of the above are or have been mismanaged, all of the above are young lads with bags of talent who, under the right management could become world-beaters in their chosen positions.
Right now we look all over the place in our attack, and why wouldn't we? We have constant changes in our 1, 6/7 and 9. Personally I don't know how Wane expected Bowen to do well in one of the toughest fixtures of the season after not playing for 9 games.
All this is down to the management, yet the management constantly berates and flogs the players; I know I'd soon get sick of that treatment without the boss taking any responsibility, I also know I'd feel angered to be hammered for errors while the coach constantly plays me in the wrong position.
I'm not saying SW can't turn this around, but surely he has to be held responsible for current form, and our away form in particular is abysmal.'"
Your spot on with what you have wrote!
Going back to what you say about our 1/6/7/9.... i still cant understand why he started powell at 6, then took him off after 15 minutes to bring williams on?
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| Quote: wiganstripleL "Your spot on with what you have wrote!
Going back to what you say about our 1/6/7/9.... i still cant understand why he started powell at 6, then took him off after 15 minutes to bring williams on?'"
Could be a number of reasons; didn't think we were going well, wanted an element of surprise or shear panic. Hard to say.
I do believe we have the players to be very good, Wane needs to sort it out or be shown the door.
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| I think on paper and when everyone is fit we have the strongest squad in the league... wane isnt getting the best out them...especially away from home. Something is wrong somewhere when it comes to away games.... every man and his dog can see it...why cant wane?
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| Hopefully Cats is just one (two or three) of those games every team has in a season. But at this stage in the fixtures our away form is definitely entering the squeaky bum stage, and SW’s mantra of “that performance is just unacceptable” is now becoming unacceptable.
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| Quote: pies-r-us "Hopefully Cats is just one (two or three) of those games every team has in a season. But at this stage in the fixtures our away form is definitely entering the squeaky bum stage, and SW’s mantra of “that performance is just unacceptable” is now becoming unacceptable.
I'm just waiting for him to start discussing putting humpty dumpty back together!
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "What's worrying for me is Wane's ideas to correct poor performances.
All he seems to do is rotate Hampshire and Bowen, neither get back into the team on merit, but because the other has played poorly. FWIW I feel sorry for these two who are the two who seem to be targeted, not the likes of Sarg (for example) who has played as poorly as anyone in defence recently).
I'm not saying SW can't turn this around, but surely he has to be held responsible for current form, and our away form in particular is abysmal.'"
But how does anyone get back in on merit when there are no reserve games for them to play in?
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| The stats from the game are shocking.
Only 1 player ran for more than 100m - Sarginson, who also missed 5 tackles and made 2 errors.
We conceded 9 penalties to Catalan's 3... sure.
Sam Powell made 0 METRES... what? I know he didn't play massive minutes but that is either wrong or he was a complete waste of a shirt.
Larne Patrick, 4 carries for 21 metres and 3 missed tackles.
O'Loughlin, 4 missed tackles, an error and 3 penalties.
Charnley and Joel didn't run once from dummy half.
Matty Smith kicked 3 times all game.
Just an absolute horror show.
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| Quote: The Chin's Back "Expect a Wane quote along the lines of
On the Skysports site he does say they were well and truly beaten by a better side. However he does manage to somehow also throw in ''the game is refereed differently over here, there is no doubt about that''.
I just love him for this little throw ins. Even if in the event they were beaten comprehensively out of site, he will always make sure there is a little reference somewhere towards the officiating.
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| Quote: Geoff "But how does anyone get back in on merit when there are no reserve games for them to play in?'"
That's not the point. The point was players are only re-selected when a player performs badly, hence why I highlighted it was a big ask of Bowen to put in a strong performance in one of our toughest fixtures after not playing for 9 weeks or so.
Hampshire doesn't have to improve, just wait for Bowen to make a mess and he'll be back in.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "That's not the point. The point was players are only re-selected when a player performs badly, hence why I highlighted it was a big ask of Bowen to put in a strong performance in one of our toughest fixtures after not playing for 9 weeks or so.
Hampshire doesn't have to improve, just wait for Bowen to make a mess and he'll be back in.'"
Sure, but the option would seem to be dropping players who are not playing badly, based on reputation. Charnley was quite rightly being kept out by the youngsters, for example...would you have advised dropping either of them when they were doing well?
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| Quote: Geoff "Sure, but the option would seem to be dropping players who are not playing badly, based on reputation. Charnley was quite rightly being kept out by the youngsters, for example...would you have advised dropping either of them when they were doing well?'"
No I don't know what you're getting at. I never even implied we shouldn't drop players on reputation, or bring players back when someone else is playing well in the same position.
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| I'd just like to say how well Catalan played. They were crash hot and almost everything that they did came off. Yes, Wigan were poor but that shouldn't detract from the Catalan performance. Sometimes you get games like that and have to take it on the chin. What will be interesting is how the players (and coaching staff) react come Saturday.
If I was Wane I would call the senior players (O'Loughlin, Smith, Tomkins, McIlorum etc) into a meeting and just say to them, I'll give you a couple of hours with the rest of the team, then come back and tell me what you thought went wrong, and how you think it can be fixed.
Wane will have watched the video and no doubt have his own ideas, including his own team selection.
Once that's out of the way and they've all had their say, they can start planning for Leeds.
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