the difference in response on this forum between a loss in a good match against a 'big' team and a loss in a disappointing match against a 'small' team is quite bizarre.

The first thread on the Wolfs board was a whine about how Wane has had the Gaul to praise Castleford as being the best side to play at the DW this year.
Desperately looking for some kind of confirmation that indeed the Wolfs in fact were the best team to have played here, despite not beating us.
The real comedy value of the post is that they also thought that surely Leeds and Hudds performances must have been better than Cas whilst ridiculing themselves that as they haven't even played here!
I'll have a small wager that there's 5 times as many threads on the Wolfs board about Wigan than vice versa?

The next comedic posts were about the arrogance of wigan for not wanting to change the Cas game to a Sunday because its only Cas "the arrogant Wigan gits".
Then there's the back track on that followed up with Wanes being arrogant because he rested players against Widnes last year the arrogant gits, yet no mention that they've lauded "Sir Tony" for resting players all the way through 2012 and no mention of when they lost doing the same.

What has always amused me is that there are posters all over RL fans but in particular on the Wolfs board who on their own site revel in their hatred and jealousy of Wigan positively promoting their own jealousy as a badge of honour.
Yet they then come on here wanting to engage in reasonable discussion with us.
In my opinion anyone who shows such a hatred towards someone/The wigan club loses all right to engage in such discussion as their obvious hatred/jealousy biases every word that comes out of their bodies.
It would be interesting if we all engaged this and make a list somewhere of posters who "hate" wigan one minute and then want reasoned debate the next to highlight their biased ness ?
Lets have a cheat sheet that we can refer to at such times so we can remember them?

I wonder if you'll be on there Just-browny"?

Not sure what Wire have to do with this? I'd have thought he would be reflecting on their first choice side failing to put Wigan's A team to bed until the last 10 minutes, on Monday, at home.

I never understand why people always go on about X team is obsessed why Y team.

It's the nature of rivalry, pick any team you like including Wigan and there's always a team they talk about the most after their own team.

Wire's is Wigan
Wigan's is Saints
Saints is Wigan
Bradford is Leeds
Leeds is Wigan
Widnes is Wire
Salford is Wire
KR is FC
FC is KR
Cas is Wakefield
Wakefield is Cas

you can do that with any team in any league in any sport, so why it comes as a shock to some that fans talk about other teams baffles me?

Worth commenting just how gracious the Widnes fans were, to a man.

Not really; in both cases the comments focus more on the performance than the results. Most fans are not too upset when the team play well and lose, as happened v Wire for example, but we do get upset when we play badly, whatever the result.

I understand your sarcasm but (unless you have only been watching Wigan for a few years), this isn't even Cas' best victory against Wigan. In fact I can think of 2 better ones - the Regal Cup Final a good few years ago. Nobody expected Cas to win, I think you had won every trophy going for a number of years but it ended up 33-2 in our favour (I think). The play-off victory in 1999 was also a bigger victory as it was the first game at the JJB and we were playing from 5th, again with nobody giving us a chance!

However, it is difficult to argue your last point. The RFL don't seem to like the fact that our small-town club (who refuse to go bust by spending money we can't afford) still compete in the utopia that is Super League. If only we were more like Bradford and Wakefield, willing to leave businesses crippled by not paying them before declaring 'bankrupcy' and chasing the dream by spending more than they can afford, then perhaps our SL future would be safe?

Cas are a great club with a great history. Good to see them on the up. At one time they would beat us time after time in the Challenge cup and it took the 8 in a row run to end that cycle.

I personally think that Wigan's woeful performance spoke volumes about your head coach TBH
Wane thought that all you had to do was turn up and take the 2 points,I think your club will be in a serious spot of trouble winning the big games when Sam Tomkins leaves judging by previous results when he has also been missing

I think it says nothing of the sort.

Well despite all its faults, at least this thread lets us all laugh at lionarmour87's obsession with us on the Whinos board.

I take it you dont know the REAL reason why Cas happened to win that day in the Regal Trophy final.
It has been covered before on this forum, and quite rightly removed due to this country's libel laws.

I thought the real reason we lost to Cas that day was that we played crap and they were good.

Just like the real reason we lost the premiership ist round to Sts in 1985 was because we played crap (not because Brett Kenny's Mrs wanted to go home).

Libel laws are there to stop untruths being pedalled. So presumably the Cas stuff was removed because of exactly that.

Would it be because Cas scored far more points?
I'm intruiged to know this REAL reason, please let me know via PM if it cannot be put on a public forum!