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| Raynor tried to dislodge the ball, got it wrong.
Red card was very harsh.
Can anyone who disagrees come up with a reason why Raynor would do it intentionally?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Raynor tried to dislodge the ball, got it wrong.
Red card was very harsh.
Can anyone who disagrees come up with a reason why Raynor would do it intentionally?'"
I'm not 100% it was intentional, only Raynor will truly know whether it was or not. However, it was a hard contact with the head, poorly judged or not, and was a red card offence.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Can anyone who disagrees come up with a reason why Raynor would do it intentionally?'"
Something earlier in the game perhaps, we can only speculate
Quote: east hull FC fan "Raynor tried to dislodge the ball, got it wrong.Red card was very harsh.'"
Accident or not its a sending off with probably a ban to follow for a terrible attempt at a 'tackle'
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| I think you will find the word "reckless" used by Redhall... Nuff said.
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| Quote: WigansForeignLegion "I'm not 100% it was intentional, only Raynor will truly know whether it was or not. However, it was a hard contact with the head, poorly judged or not, and was a red card offence.'"
Morleys against the Aussies was a red, this wasn't.
Ganson had to ask where the contact was. Everything like this looks a lot worse in slow motion.
Raynor spent a lot of years at my club and I've met him a few times. Believe me, it would not have been intentional.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Morleys against the Aussies was a red, this wasn't.
Ganson had to ask where the contact was. Everything like this looks a lot worse in slow motion.
Raynor spent a lot of years at my club and I've met him a few times. Believe me, it would not have been intentional.'"
You know him, I don't, happy to take your word for that. However, that was a serious contact to the nose/chops with a swinging arm, therefore a red card imo.
Re Ganson, he was viewing from behind so sought clarity as to what happened; rightly so.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Morleys against the Aussies was a red, this wasn't.
Ganson had to ask where the contact was. Everything like this looks a lot worse in slow motion.
Raynor spent a lot of years at my club and I've met him a few times. Believe me, it would not have been intentional.'"
Intent is irrelevant. He made contact with the head with a clenched fist resulting in a player being knocked out. Red.
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| Quote: shambawangy "Something earlier in the game perhaps, we can only speculate
Accident or not its a sending off with probably a ban to follow for a terrible attempt at a 'tackle''"
It wasn't a tackle, he was striking at the ball and got it wrong, I think a yellow would have been fair.
Don't let the fact he was knocked out cloud your judgement.
Given Tomkins was in cloud cuckoo land I fail to see how he would have been in control of the ball to ground it.
No try, and a yellow for me.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "It wasn't a tackle, he was striking at the ball and got it wrong, I think a yellow would have been fair.
Don't let the fact he was knocked out cloud your judgement.
Given Tomkins was in cloud cuckoo land I fail to see how he would have been in control of the ball to ground it.
No try, and a yellow for me.'"
It can't have been no try because if he didn't ground it (even though he did - control is irrelevant), it would've been a penalty try for the offence by Raynor in the act of scoring.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "It wasn't a tackle, he was striking at the ball and got it wrong, I think a yellow would have been fair.
Don't let the fact he was knocked out cloud your judgement.
Given Tomkins was in cloud cuckoo land I fail to see how he would have been in control of the ball to ground it.
No try, and a yellow for me.'"
There looked to be downward pressure to me... Can you comment on that fact?
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| Quote: WigansForeignLegion "You know him, I don't, happy to take your word for that. However, that was a serious contact to the nose/chops with a swinging arm, therefore a red card imo.
Re Ganson, he was viewing from behind so sought clarity as to what happened; rightly so.'"
I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect it.
Shame Ganson wasn't in charge of our game when Long was similarly taken out on the line. Knock on was given that night! Ah well, that's SL reffing for you.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Morleys against the Aussies was a red, this wasn't.
Ganson had to ask where the contact was. Everything like this looks a lot worse in slow motion.
Raynor spent a lot of years at my club and I've met him a few times. Believe me, it would not have been intentional.'"
Doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. You can't expect to stay on the field when a swinging arm hits the head of a player and knocks him out. Players get sent off for less this was reckless play at the very least and that's a sending off offence.
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "There looked to be downward pressure to me... Can you comment on that fact?'"
Gravity?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Given Tomkins was in cloud cuckoo land I fail to see how he would have been in control of the ball to ground it.
No try, and a yellow for me.'"
In that case Have you ever heard of something called a 'penalty try' ......obviously not
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