But people are suggesting Justin Morgan as a good example but going off what you are saying he hasnt won anything with Hull KR (bar NL1) so he hasnt had success with them.

However if you look at it that he has turned an average side in KR around to be a strong top end team, surely the same can then be said about Noble in that he has turned us from Bottom of the table to top 4/5.

that's all i can think of.

That and the fact that certain players only started to play when the weather improved. A decent coach wouldnt let them get away with that.

As good as barrett was you knew if it was raining he was unlikely that he was going to play as good as we know he can.

i think nobby has done as much as he can for this club and feel its time to start afresh........funny how the team has started playing better since the ''nobby is going/sacked''stories have been circulating

2 year deal, already signed.

Bradford, Hull or Celtic?

I'm hoping Hull. I hear they do the best press conference buffet...

The same people who want Noble out now are the ones who will be calling for the coach's head this time next year because the people in the new set-up ( players and coaching staff) are taking time to settle and gel!!!!

This has been Wigan's problem for the last 10 years - no stability. Get off Nobby's back!

Last time I looked Noble's been here for three and a half years. If stability = having to accept three years of underachievement, count me out.

Spot on.

We do well at the tail end and people forget about all that has gone before. They quote how we did in the playoff games and forget/ignore the fact that we lost about half our games during the league rounds. Same happens each year and the cracks are papered over, everyone thinks its fine and nothing changes.

I don't much care whether other fans are willing to accept it anymore. The only people that need to acknowledge that our trend of poor starts must stop are IL and the board. I hope that they do and that if they give Noble 1 more season to work with new signings that they have the guts to give him the boot mid season if we serve up the same early form again.

No I wouldn't defend Millward because in the opposite direction to Noble , he was rarely there at reserve and academy levels and was destroying the confidence at lower levels.

Ask any of the players at academy / U 21 levels or read Radliskis book.

We have got to have some stability, the new players are starting to perform, and the Wigan "youngsters" are improving all the time, with others learning in the reserves.
Look at Pat Richards first season and look at him now.
I was at Bridgend and remember that night well, and the day after,and the day after, but after Friday can't wait for the next two games.
Give Brian Noble a new contract, but get it sorted IL.

Personally i think that when you know your Gaffer is looking for someone to take HIS job over on the other side of the world,Noble has carried on,and now Wigan look to have got some consistancey going,,,local derby next Friday which you could well win,,followed by a semi final,,again winnable,,,You could finish 4th ateotd......at the moment you have got momentum,and people are talking about getting rid....Wigan have a big 3 months coming up,after whats happened this season you never know.

That is simply not true.

There are always malcontents who will complain about anything. We see them on the terraces, we see them on this message board. But much of the disapproval aired about Noble's record at Wigan is based on a factual analysis of reality. It's not been made up.

The evidence of countless poor performances (let's not get carried away by the last quarter of each season) strongly indicates that Wigan are not as well coached as they could be. Shouting "get off Nobby's back" doesn't even start to address that very fundamental problem.

And as for 'stability' ... well that's starting to sound a shield for someone to hide behind. Nobby's been here longer than any other coach in recent times, and has easily had long enough to inject some stability. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing the word. It's way overused.

Other clubs go through regular personnel changes - both among the playing staff and the coaching staff, but that doesn't stop them challenging for honours. It's time we started doing the same.

Watching the club for 60 years and going to the reserves doesn't give you some mythical power. I watched in the second division like a lot of people did, but it has absolutely no bearing on what we need to do as a club now.

I've not time for Millward but could just as easily defend him by pointing to his record at Stains to show how good a coach he his, but that has no bearing at his time at Wigan, just like Noble's record at Bradford shouldn't be used as an excuse for his Wigan record.

Noble's had nearly three years to move us on since the 2006 season and it hasn't happened. Time for some fresh ideas and a new approach.