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I think we are all over reacting. I don't rate Noble as the right coach for Wigan, and think that we should seriously look for a new one at the end of the season. I am not a happy camper, and have on a number of times questioned why I keep renewing my season tickets. However after thinking about this, my own view is we should stick with Brian Noble until the end of the season.

I think Mr. Lenagan should:

1.) Be clear about his expectations - that Wigan needs to seriously improve and that Brian's job is definitely on the line.

2.) Insist that we immediately bring in a specialist coach to sort out our attack - tactics and creativity - Noble is weak, boring and old fashioned in his thinking in this area.

3.) Insist that we appoint a new captain, who will be vocal on the field and read the riot act to the players, when they perform poorly or lack any intensity.

4.) Tell Brian to get the fitness levels sorted - they looked really poor against Cats.

5.) Do what he can within the cap to strengthen our position at prop, and let our current group of Props know that they are playing for survival on a Wigan team - that at the end of the year there will be a clear out.

I understand the "we have nothing to lose" and the caretaker comments, but I don't think the season is a total write off, and I think the disruption will just take us backwards. Unless you have a really good coach in mind, I can't see that firing Brian Noble will sort any issues out.

Despite all the doom and gloom that everybody is venting, I think we do show signs of being a good team. The game against Saints and even against Cats, shows that our attack could be something special if we sort it out. Also for the past two years we have tended to come good at the back end of the season. I still remain optimistic about what we can still achieve - but we really need to sort things out!

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We look poorly coached as a team - no idea in attack - our only option seems to be an inside pass to a slow forward.

If Nathan Brwn or similar was coaching us, would we be a better team? Of course we would.

Noble has had his chance, and we have not progressed as a team at all. We are going backwards.

I'd have a bet on Brian McDermott as his replacement. Lenagan worked with him at Quins didn't he.

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Quote: Cheeky Boy "I'd have a bet on Brian McDermott as his replacement. Lenagan worked with him at Quins didn't he.'"


Good call - I'd ask him to bring his boots as well!

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Quote: Mother Feka "Jesus why are people over reacting so much?? We lost away to catalan 3 days after a intense game against saints, it aint as bad as people are making out
what about the other half dozen games - got a excuse for them too?

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We'd get a photocopy of a photocopy - both Nobby and Mc are from the Elliot school of coaching.

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Quote: Donna "We'd get a photocopy of a photocopy - both Nobby and Mc are from the Elliot school of coaching.'"


Brian Mc would be a nighmare, more of the same but with 3 years grace to play the style!

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I dont see any english coaches who excites me about taking over, i said last year we should of jumped in for Potter before it was too late and we didnt, i wanted us to get Smith before Wire did, we didnt. Now were paying the price for keeping with a coach set in his ways and unwilling to move on at the same speed as the game has. IL has to take the blame for our slump as much as anyone for not recognising what many others have, if Noble goes now hes got the chance to leave with his head still held high as the man who kept us up and put some stability but the longer he stays the more credibility hes losing IMO.

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Quote: Tacitus "I think we are all over reacting. I don't rate Noble as the right coach for Wigan, and think that we should seriously look for a new one at the end of the season. I am not a happy camper, and have on a number of times questioned why I keep renewing my season tickets. However after thinking about this, my own view is we should stick with Brian Noble until the end of the season.

I think Mr. Lenagan should

We don't now for a fact that he isn't doing these things. But one thing we can be sure of - he isn't going to do them publically.

Anyone expecting the chairman to slag the coach off in the newspapers will be waiting a long time, especially when there are still two thirds of a season to get through before we can realistically make the change.

For what it's worth, I think Noble's finished at Wigan. The peak of his Wigan coaching came at the end of his first half-season. Since then it's been all down hill. We've got steadily worse until now we're almost at the level we were under Millward, with everyone involved apparently clueless as to how to stop the inexplicable rot.

No club can remain loyal to a figure as badly tarnished as Nobby now is - not if they want to be taken seriously as a competitive sporting entity. The guy only just beat Barrow, and yesterday presided over the most abject surrender since the siege of Singapore. He's got to go, and I'm sure he himself knows it.

But I doubt anything will happen until a replacement is lined up - and this time that must be a TOP QUALITY replacement, not another journeyman who fancies trying his hand at coaching (Eric Hughes, Andy Goodway, Denis Betts, etc), or, worse still, a 'panic measure' inhouse promotion (like Lowes at Wire). Getting someone good may take time, but just because we don't hear about it, that doesn't mean the wheels aren't already be in motion. Let's just hope and pray that they are.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I hope Noble does get sacked or walks away. The reason being i am sick to death of idiots like Jonh,Diesel and DaveO blaming Noble for everything and desperate for the man to fail. All those bandwagoners who have jumped on the truck should hold there heads in shame as well as the majority of you blasted Lindsay and Whelan no end for sacking coaches and claimed we needed stability. Sacking coaches was what triggered the downfall of Wigan in the first place and led to new coaches wanting to change the squad around time and time again. Noble has half built the team yet is still missing vital players in key positions. If you think any coach could do better with such a poor front row and a cr@p 7 and inexperienced 6 then you need a reality check. The days of teams lying down and rolling over for Wigan have long gone and the facts are teams have overtook us and the salary cap has made sure that the competition is more even and anybody can beat anybody. The only way to sucseed nowaday is to build a team over a good few years and get some stabilty across the board not press the panic button when things are not going right. Warrington pressed the panic button with Cullen and have gone backwards if anything and have shown little sign of improvement under Tony Smith who the Noble haters regard as a master coach.'"


Jalapeno - there are many people who have been calling for BN to go for a while but without saying that he was the sole cause of our problems. Far from it. The players have their share of the blame and the backroom staff just aren't producing players with the right level of strength, power and fitness to allow the team to compete properly at SL level (yesterday being a prime example),

I have been saying for some time (and probably boring people almost as much as I do about the SC icon_lol.gif ) that there is a general malaise at the club. Standards have slipped across the board. I have been criticised for this by some (BK included, which just goes to show that while we agree on the SC we aren't actually the same person, as some Stains have alleged in the past! icon_lol.gif ) but absolutely stand by this comment.

Thinking positively about how the club can change this, to me the real issue is whether IL is going to start setting the agenda for success.

From what I have seen of the IL he is a genuine guy who cares about the club and actually cares about the fans. That's great, but if he's going to get us back challenging for honours he needs to raise ambitions and expectations.

Many posters on this board have this season been satisified with narrow defeats and mediocre performances. Many fans as well as the club have become infected with the disease of second rate syndrome.

What we need is for IL to start demanding nothing less than the best from the coaching and backroom staff and set expectations at a more appropriate level - realistic in the short term, but when he talks about the medium/long term he needs to start using language like "world class", "best in the world" etc.

We are Wigan, the greatest club in the world. For all his faults ML believed that, he made any doubters at Wigan believe it. He made the British RL world believe it (that's why some many envious people in RL hate us so much!). One night in Brisbane the Wigan club in its crowning achievement won the WCC, the greatest glory in a decade of unrivalled success (even outdoing the pummelling an all Wigan GB pack gave the Aussie pack on that famous night in Melbourne a couple of years earlier). We made even the Aussies believe it.

We may never - in the era of the SC (and general anti-Wigan bile and hatred) - get back to the top of that mountain but IL needs to aim high. A root and branch clear out of the club is necessary. We need new people, new ideas and most of all a new vision.

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Quote: Deano G "Jalapeno - there are many people who have been calling for BN to go for a while but without saying that he was the sole cause of our problems. Far from it. The players have their share of the blame and the backroom staff just aren't producing players with the right level of strength, power and fitness to allow the team to compete properly at SL level (yesterday being a prime example),

I have been saying for some time (and probably boring people almost as much as I do about the SC 3.951171875:5
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