So we were inconsistent in defence and our conditioning was not up to scratch.

In my opinion both Noble issues.

Basically those were the 2 issues.

Forshaw surely has to be to blame for some of the conditioning, he is over that area, am I naive to think that he sets up the conditioning programmes etc?

Who brought Forshaw to the club?

You have a budget to bring top quality specialist coaches to the club, is it coincidence that the best coach is Nobles mate?

Jobs for the boys.

Good coaches surround themselves with the best people.

Well played Sean Ainscough!

He looked in a lot of bother with his feet. He just about squeezed into the black boots to replace the orange ones. IIRC he had the orange ones at Warrington. Surely a proffesional club makes sure their players have decent footwear that fits/ provides traction?

He had a great debut, took his try superbly, and I don't give a stuff about him raising his arm to celebrate, was nice to see someone who had a bit of passion. Well done.

Let's hope for another debut next week in SL,

I agree with that, I would like to see IL bring in new coaches / conditioning staff to work with Noble. I have questions relating to our fitness but ill hold my hands up and admit I dont know enough to question him. That being said, I know enough to understand we aren't fit enough.

Looks like it's shortlivedHopefully we will get Bailey and Richards back next week." '" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4536 I'm sure Quins are petrified Brian.

Looks like it's shortlivedHopefully we will get Bailey and Richards back next week." '" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4536 I'm sure Quins are petrified Brian.

It wasn't Brian Foley, it was Phil Vievers, and quite rightly.
Ainscough should have passed the ball inside inthe first place, igan had two men inthe clear, then he baet the fullback on the touchline and had a free run to the posts.

What did he do, give the arm in the air and put the ball down 10 yards from the touchline instead of under the posts.

Goal kick missed, and still two points behind. He will get a well deserved bollocking, I just hope he learns from it.

Otherwise he had a great debut, as did Karl Pryce (considering he is only about 70% fit)

You're forgetting about his favourite adopted son (he who can do no wrong) who has served his two match ban.

I respect your opinion Brian but i love the fact he backed himself and stuck one finger up when scoring the try (metophorically).

Would Offiah have passed?

The lad saw the line and went for it and got over, i would rather a wing man back himslef and have confidence in his ability.

Form what i hear Tomkins should have passed also.

He won't recall Mathers.

We'll see.

I bet you 50p

Offiah would have gone under the posts then celebrated. I just hope he learns. As a good St. Helens friend text me after the game, youthful exuberance.