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Quote: Stu M "Its an interesting one but even as a Saints fan I'd love to see him go and test himself. There's nothing left for him to achieve in SL so go and earn some big money and test yourself. I believe he is a real homebird but 2-3 years earning a great salary could mean he still comes back to SL at 25 with years ahead of him. There's nothing left for him to achieve here.

Given you are an avid NRL watcher I'm interested in your opinion here. I too watch a lot of NRL and my only worry is that is he not too much "off the cuff"? He tries lots of things that don't always come off but rather than retreating into a shell he still tries.

Would the more structured and systems approach in the NRL suit his game?'"


A good plan as I see it would be to go to the NRL for 3 years or so and test himself and then come back to play for his boyhood club and live his dreams, playing in his heroes Sam Tomkins old shirt icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: NickyKiss "A good plan as I see it would be to go to the NRL for 3 years or so and test himself and then come back to play for his boyhood club and live his dreams, playing in his heroes Sam Tomkins old shirt
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I would guess that all the non- Saints fans would still want him to do well in the NRL if he went.

I hated Williams and Bateman at Wigan but as soon as they went to Canberra I wanted them to play well every game

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Quote: Stu M "

Without doubt. The lads that go represent the country in a way and the Aussies are arrogant enough without our best going over and flopping. I think they really rate the forwards that go but maybe not the backs as much. In fairness though Williams was really good and I think Welsby would make a big impact as well.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Without doubt. The lads that go represent the country in a way and the Aussies are arrogant enough without our best going over and flopping. I think they really rate the forwards that go but maybe not the backs as much. In fairness though Williams was really good and I think Welsby would make a big impact as well.'"


I ended up on a mad night out last Good Friday with Williams, Ben Austin and another lad who I think played for Wigan Academy but didn't make it. Some mad stories from the night but anyway Williams was saying that the pressure over there was unreal compared to here. It really brought home how different the two sports are viewed as a whole. He was actually a really good bloke to talk to, very different to my perception of him.

I agree that we could do with some backs going over and doing really well. Young and Farnworth have been outstanding but weren't SL names at all. Farnworth effectively went over at 16 but was a St Pats lad.

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Quote: Stu M "He's certainly been a better player this season.

When Dodd first came through he was set for huge things, there were a lot of SL clubs after him and he was described as the next big thing. Rogues Gallery will confirm the talent and potential he had. I do feel that the Achilles injury has massively put him back. Up to that injury he was outstanding at times and a lot of our attack came from him.

This season he seems to be playing within himself, rarely taking the line on with the good step that he has and his last tackle kicks have been awful. There are parallels to Luke Walsh and how he played before and after his bad injury. Conversely Smith's all round kicking game has been superb.

That being said he did have the nerve to kick the winning DG in the WCC and there does seem to be some genuine interest in him from Australia. Joey Johns has been reported this morning as encouraging the Dragons to sign him if and when Hunt leaves. He has been very complimentary about him.

Dodd has shown glimpses this season of his previous form but overall he has been poor and a lot of fans have even suggested he should be dropped with Lomax/Welsby in the halves.

I still feel Welsby is a way better 6 than 1 but that's a conversation for another day.

Smith has been very good this season to be fair'"

You might be interested in this Stu. John's recommendation of Dodd seems to based on what he's heard rather than anything he's seen for himself. The recommendation comes from a friend of Johns' who's on the Warrington coaching staff. Not exactly a ringing endorsement to be fair and It seems he's completely unfamiliar with his downturn in form coming back from injury.

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Quote: Stu M "He's certainly been a better player this season.

When Dodd first came through he was set for huge things, there were a lot of SL clubs after him and he was described as the next big thing. Rogues Gallery will confirm the talent and potential he had. I do feel that the Achilles injury has massively put him back. Up to that injury he was outstanding at times and a lot of our attack came from him.

This season he seems to be playing within himself, rarely taking the line on with the good step that he has and his last tackle kicks have been awful. There are parallels to Luke Walsh and how he played before and after his bad injury. Conversely Smith's all round kicking game has been superb.

That being said he did have the nerve to kick the winning DG in the WCC and there does seem to be some genuine interest in him from Australia. Joey Johns has been reported this morning as encouraging the Dragons to sign him if and when Hunt leaves. He has been very complimentary about him.

Dodd has shown glimpses this season of his previous form but overall he has been poor and a lot of fans have even suggested he should be dropped with Lomax/Welsby in the halves.

I still feel Welsby is a way better 6 than 1 but that's a conversation for another day.

Smith has been very good this season to be fair'"

You might be interested in this Stu. John's recommendation of Dodd seems to based on what he's heard rather than anything he's seen for himself. The recommendation comes from a friend of Johns' who's on the Warrington coaching staff. Not exactly a ringing endorsement to be fair and It seems he's completely unfamiliar with his downturn in form coming back from injury.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... l-27220733


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Quote: Phuzzy "You might be interested in this Stu. John's recommendation of Dodd seems to based on what he's heard rather than anything he's seen for himself. The recommendation comes from a friend of Johns' who's on the Warrington coaching staff. Not exactly a ringing endorsement to be fair and It seems he's completely unfamiliar with his downturn in form coming back from injury.


Well the Warrington member of staff musn't have watched him this season either icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Stu M "Well the Warrington member of staff musn't have watched him this season either Let's be honest...would you trust the opinion of a member of the Warrington coaching staff? icon_eek.gif icon_lol.gif

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Quote: Stu M "Its an interesting one but even as a Saints fan I'd love to see him go and test himself. There's nothing left for him to achieve in SL so go and earn some big money and test yourself. I believe he is a real homebird but 2-3 years earning a great salary could mean he still comes back to SL at 25 with years ahead of him. There's nothing left for him to achieve here.

Given you are an avid NRL watcher I'm interested in your opinion here. I too watch a lot of NRL and my only worry is that is he not too much "off the cuff"? He tries lots of things that don't always come off but rather than retreating into a shell he still tries.

Would the more structured and systems approach in the NRL suit his game?'"

I think at first he’d have to play at structure, til he earn respect and trust by his coaches and team mates.

Munster plays for a very structured team but is allowed to create on his own off the cuff and Jerome Hughes organises.

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Quote: NSW "I think at first he’d have to play at structure, til he earn respect and trust by his coaches and team mates.

Munster plays for a very structured team but is allowed to create on his own off the cuff and Jerome Hughes organises.'"


Great point re Munster. If he ends up being half the player he is I’ll be happy!

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Catalan at +8 tomorrow night is a very good bet. They are at full strength bar Morgue and Taukeiaho and we have Batchelor and Makinson still missing. Sironen has been named in the 21 man squad but I'd be surprised if he plays. Our right edge in defence has been suspect all season with Hurrell but its noticeably worse without Batchelor and Makinson. Batchelor makes a huge difference.

Even if we win I think it will be a close one.

Just to add that I go on holiday a week tomorrow for two weeks so just in case we lose the CC semi-final I've not gone missing! I'll always front up win or lose. To make it worse we are on a cruise with no Internet access so I won't have access on my phone for the first 3 days whilst at sea (no way am I paying £30 per day per device for Wi-fi for me, my wife and two lads)

The second day at sea is the Leigh game so unless the British bar (why is there always a British bar everywhere) on the ship will put BBC 1 on for me, I'll have no idea of the score.

I'm hoping that there will be Sky Sports News on somewhere so if I can't watch the game I should at least find out the score

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Quote: Stu M "Catalan at +8 tomorrow night is a very good bet. They are at full strength bar Morgue and Taukeiaho and we have Batchelor and Makinson still missing. Sironen has been named in the 21 man squad but I'd be surprised if he plays. Our right edge in defence has been suspect all season with Hurrell but its noticeably worse without Batchelor and Makinson. Batchelor makes a huge difference.

Even if we win I think it will be a close one.

Just to add that I go on holiday a week tomorrow for two weeks so just in case we lose the CC semi-final I've not gone missing! I'll always front up win or lose. To make it worse we are on a cruise with no Internet access so I won't have access on my phone for the first 3 days whilst at sea (no way am I paying £30 per day per device for Wi-fi for me, my wife and two lads)

The second day at sea is the Leigh game so unless the British bar (why is there always a British bar everywhere) on the ship will put BBC 1 on for me, I'll have no idea of the score.

I'm hoping that there will be Sky Sports News on somewhere so if I can't watch the game I should at least find out the score'"


What has that got to do with Saints v Wigan?

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "What has that got to do with Saints v Wigan?'"


Do you only post at night when your Mum lets you have a go with her laptop?

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In terms of Saints and if anyone is watching them tonight, Tiaki Chan is on the bench for Catalans, so hopefully he’ll get to make some friends early.

Edit-Jenna Brooks saying Keighran a done deal as well, so we can have a look at him.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Ref making sure Saints got a try then

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Quote: NSW "Ref making sure Saints got a try then'"


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