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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "We simply lack size and grunt in the forwards (and generally across the team) - add in our plodding line speed in defence and when we face a decent team we could get our backsides kicked.

It was SEVEN years ago that Radlinski said the squad was too small (in terms of physicality) and yet here we are.'"


The powers that be are well aware of whats required. We signed burgess last year with this in mind to fill that position but obviously it didn’t go exactly to plan. So that tells me they know the issue, resolving it though is certainly harder than us talking about it.

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Quote: Trainman "I know Leeds were missing more players than us but put Marshall, Manfredi, French, Field and Gildart back in and our attack is far more threatening.

With two second rowers in the centres we will never be as fluid as we want to be.

The Hastings try showed how much juice we had taken out of them, that was pure fatigue in defence. From that point on, although only 6 in front I never felt we were going to lose the game.

Big efforts from Smithies and Isa. I’m pleased for Hanley, an error free game and we saw half a glimpse of what he could do if we managed to give him the ball in some space.

Is it just me who can’t stand this new ball stripping rule.'"

I personally don't mind the 1 on 1 ball steal it's when there's been multiple people in the tackle and they just drop off the tackle that's what really annoys me

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Quote: jonh "I think there is a lot more on this side to be honest.

I’m pretty comfortable with where we are at the moment.

We have yet to click, we are winning and we are getting the basics right. The finer points need work but so far so good.'"


How many times have we “clicked” during Lam’s tenure?

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "How many times have we “clicked” during Lam’s tenure?'"


Quite often. Why?

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Quote: jonh "Quite often. Why?'"


More often that not we don’t “click”

I’d say 6 times max in 2 and bit seasons. That is pretty generous
Always an excuse from Lam for not performing 80 minutes
Too many poor and bang average forwards and a poor coach offset by great defence and fitness equals nearly men. That’s what we are

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Quote: jonh "Quite often. Why?'"


More often that not we don’t “click”

I’d say 6 times max in 2 and bit seasons. That is pretty generous
Always an excuse from Lam for not performing 80 minutes
Too many poor and bang average forwards and a poor coach offset by great defence and fitness equals nearly men. That’s what we are

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "More often that not we don’t “click”

I’d say 6 times max in 2 and bit seasons. That is pretty generous
Always an excuse from Lam for not performing 80 minutes
Too many poor and bang average forwards and a poor coach offset by great defence and fitness equals nearly men. That’s what we are'"


You didn’t think we played well tonight?

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Thought we played really well tonight and we played tough our defence was superb again..

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We were excellent tonight, particularly in defence. I think some people seem to be ignoring the fact that we didn't have a single starting back playing in position and only 1 who would feature at all (albeit in a different position). Add to that at least 2 of our starting pack we're playing in the backs and talk of 'not clicking' becomes...well...a little ridiculous really.

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I thought Smithies had by a mile his best game for us last night, he looked a lot more threatening wider out than when he fills in at LF.

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Quote: jonh "You didn’t think we played well tonight?'"


Defensively yes.

2 touches of magic from Hastings and 1 from Hardaker the rest was average.
We’ve got a lot of average players and it’s reflected in our performances.

Nobody is going to give us a good hiding as we consistently compete really well

Tonight was a repeat of numerous previous performances

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Tonight was a repeat of numerous previous performances'"

Culminating in two points as usual.

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Decent result but not a great performance, another just enough performance again. With some issues though,

We really need to sort out the long kicking game - Hastings hoofed it up to the full back every time, only when Powell kicked a couple did we turn Leeds around more, against top teams that will just invite pressure and we cannot rely on defence all the time to win games. The first half especially every kick just went up in the air centrally, good full backs will love that as it gives them time to run back and gain easy yardage.

Too many silly penalties - we really need to tighten up around the ruck, one or two of our forwards just seem to be unable to resist daft plays.

I think Faz and Isa have done remarkably well out of position - lots of credit to them.

As has been said we are lacking go forward especially early in games - that can and will bite us in future.

Three wins out of three looks good on paper but more difficult tests await - that will show us more where we are.

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Quote: Grimmy "Culminating in two points as usual.'"


Yes and considering the opposition last night an expected one.

A team with no halves, no kicking game and very little threat. Very similar to Leyth and Wakey in terms of capabilities

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Yes and considering the opposition last night an expected one.

A team with no halves, no kicking game and very little threat. Very similar to Leyth and Wakey in terms of capabilities'"


A team that gave the Champions a much tougher game than they gave us last night.

The win was literally never in doubt even when they pulled it back to 8-6.

Are we firing on all cylinders? Absolutely not.

Should we be in a comp that relies on peaking at the end of the season? Absolutely not.

We all know where the issues are but let’s not pretend also Leeds don’t have one of the better packs in the comp. We contained them admirably.

I do sometimes wonder what people expect from the team. Unless we are winning by 50 points we are not a good team it seems.

Seen so many posts from Wigan fans on social media saying “if Leeds had so and so back and if Leeds had done this then it would be a different result”

If my aunty had testicles she’d be my uncle. She doesn’t though so let’s not pretend any different.

Last night without getting out of third gear we beat a team who will be in the top 4 or 5 in the league.

They didn’t really look like scoring once and I include their try which came from a slip giving Briscoe the bit of space and a no look miracle pass to nothing on the 5th tackle. It was a cracking bit of play don’t get me wrong but it was a standard shot to nothing 5th tackle panic play that broke us.

We are clearly not anywhere near our best at the moment which with people missing and playing out of position is to be expected.

Was it a good performance? In my opinion yes,

Can we improve? Yes.

Are we 3 from 3 and still in the cup playing reasonable rugby with an outstanding defence and much to look forward to this year? Again in my opinion, yes.

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