Nobby has not changed in the last 10 years and there is the problem. The player we lost in my opinion single handedly won Noble his contract extension for 09 for him.

No.

One is an out and out 7, the other is a 7/9.

Neither is a stand-off.

get the black pearl back at wigan,his overall persona will kick that lazy bunch of players into life

Wasn't Edwards once an out and out 6 who became a great 7? and a FB before that?
Hanley in the backs before becoming a great 13?
Gareth Ellis a centre before making a great SR?
Platt a great prop who started off in the second row?

Point is we never know till it's tried. Rushing partnerships etc will never work, everything takes time.

I want to see Tomkins as much as the next Wiganer.. but there's other things to consider.

murray did all the spade work at bradford,nobby got the glory years as a result

Possibly because the 5 minutes before the half tend to be very critical and the last thing you want is a huge tub of tired lard defending like his feet have been encased in concrete.

Noble's after match interview after the defeat to Leeds in the playoffs last year was very revealing. After that off-season recruiting drive I suspect that Noble will want out of Wigan far more than the players or you lot want him out. Players who think they run the club, fat props who think they know how to spell themselves better than the coach, club management who can only whinge about the salary cap as they seem incapable of recruiting within it? If Noble goes he will be the happiest man in RL.

Heard it all now.

Anyone not turned on Nobby?

Mrs Nobby perhaps?????

least the fat lard can tackle an run an as for nobby being happy SO WILL I u tit

Although i agree with most of what you say i dont agree with the Feka bit. Whilst he cant play long spells he is very very effective and has won us many games when hes come on the field.

As for Noble i agree,it amazes me how there are so many people on here who think they know better than him. Nobodys saying hes perfect or never makes mistakes but he can do no right with most of the Wigan fans. You summed it up when you said players who think they run the club. Ive said it all along we cannot keep sacking coaches just because the players are dummy spitters. Its time they accepted that Noble is the coach and did what he tells them to.

You may also remember him playing at fullback. However, Edwards had played plenty at 7 before doing so for Wigan.



As a winger, centre and stand-off. He also played hooker a couple of times as well.



I also recall him playing stand-off.



And played loose forward as well.

I assume your point is that those players interchanged well between positions. However, that isn't always the case and it has nothing to do with the player's ability or the position.

For example, did Gregory ever play anywhere other than at 7? Dermott anywhere other than at 9? Most props are out and out props? What other positions did Offiah play?

Some players are only suited to one position and that is it, regardless of any similarities with other positions, move them and they'd struggle.



A nice philosophy which is often true BUT not always. Sometimes it is painfully apparent that something isn't going to work and it is no use persevering.



We need a 6 at 6. I don't believe Nobby can be happy with a Smith/Leuluai partnership as he has played Tommy at 9 when Riddell went off and put Lockers at 6.

Tomkins is more of a 7 than a 6....

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6 and 7 are no different in the team Noble plays, they are both doing the same job other than the scrum.

Tomkins need a chance though, he would be happy to be playing prop as long as he gets on Im sure.

That contradicts the above points!!