Fair enough,but my comment about your team aging and not as good as they were still stands.
And by the way Wigan won that CC and St Helens got knocked out by Leigh this year so part of my comment is true.
This is prob your last chance with this particular side to win silverware as you did seem to agree on that point.
Also seeing you putting down players missing and when they come back would make a difference we have had players missing aswell you know.

Yes you do have players missing but we aren’t talking about Wigan. You are mentioning Saints. I’m just pointing out some facts.

I wasn't basing Welsby being average based on last night. I've been banging that drum ever since the sky commentators decided he was the new Jake Trueman (overhyped) I think it equally as laughable that he is lauded as some kind of Billy Slater. I ask again, what exactly is it that makes him some kind of superstar? What does he do that a regular, run of the mill full back doesn't? Does he make breaks and score spectacular try's like Field and French can? Does he has the skill of a Tomkins when he was that age? Or does he just catch the ball and tackle a lot like pretty much every other full back does? Why did he go missing in the world cup? An x-factor player rises to the challenge like Radley did not go hiding.

Have a look at his tries and assists. As good as Field and French are the acid test is the NRL is it not?

I’ll wager a charity bet that Welsby will be playing in the NRL before either of them do again. There’s a reason why they are here and not in the NRL.

Welsby is the best player in SL whether you like it or not.

He is the best player in Super League.........

Aaaaand that is the end of the conversation for me. Hilarious

That’s just my opinion of course. You’re entitled to disagree with it which is fine.

When it comes to the play offs your point about the rain is a very good one. There’s a strong argument to say Wigan are the best fair weather team at present but we have struggled in the wet. Those conditions would suit St Helens & Catalan far more than us.

I’d honestly say there are 5 teams in with a shot of winning it at the moment, that can only be good for the sport.

Wigan are probably the most consistent of a bunch of inconsistent teams at the top this season. For any of the top 6 teams it all depends who turns up on the day. I wouldn't even say the GF is going to be between teams from the top 3 with enough certainty to put money on it.

To be fair to French, he was a regular in the NRL until he had a falling out over what position he was playing.

You are talking about St Helens I just brought up some points about Wigan on a Wigan board which are also facts.

Saints are still favourites for me. Marginal but still favourites. If Wigan and Saints bring the best of their defensive intensity to a playoff or final against each other it will be explosive.

Sort that 9m defensive line that Saints get away with every game and they’ll soon get dumped out of the play offs.

Some comedy gold on here

Oh come on Percy was so off side he was lining up with the Leigh players.
James Bell could be looking at a ban with the blatant shoulder charge.

Maybe not Leeds