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| The play-off system really does need to be changed.
I wan't to see all clubs going all out, all season.
There's a sense of holding back during the SL regular rounds, bar when the top sides play each other.
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| Lets have good people in the right positions at the RFL, I am like most people when they say it is vital to pay the correct salaries to people with the correct skills.
Mcmanus and now the Hull FC Chairman has eluded to the missed marketing opportunities for the game and it is high time this is rectified amongst the many other issues
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| Quote Conman="Conman"Agree with all that bar the last bit.
The different salary caps between SL and Championship mean the teams who get promoted won't be able to sustain a place in SL or have time to build a team worthy of a challenge. I think all of those teams are part-time now and would have to change.
Going full-time and spending more money than they could handle trying to stay in SL would kill most Champ clubs.'"
Yeah that's the issue and is the reason I'm unsure on trying to bring back a promotion/relegation system.
It would add a lot to the game and both leagues but you only need to look at Widnes to see that even with time to plan it's still a very tough ask to get a really competitive side together.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Yeah that's the issue and is the reason I'm unsure on trying to bring back a promotion/relegation system.
It would add a lot to the game and both leagues but you only need to look at Widnes to see that even with time to plan it's still a very tough ask to get a really competitive side together.'"
It's time to sort the problem out.
The Championships are dying in my opinion.
I can only think of two ways to sort them.
1. Controversial, but they become feeder clubs like in Australia. Those clubs had history also.
2. Plough money into the league, get clubs in a position to spend money and grow. Both unlikely, but they can't just leave it as it is.
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| Quote phibes="phibes"Agree with that. Given that Leeds proved last year that form during the first part of the season is a meaningless predictor of GF success, it would be great to see the CC being the focus of the first 4 months of the season.'"
Noble tried to do it with us and was massively unsuccesful. I cant see why we cant keep it at 8 teams with the teams that are in 1st and 8th place play each other, 2nd vs 7th, 3rd vs 6th and 4th vs 5th in a straight knock out format. No silly rest weeks or club/coaches call business.
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| The playoffs at the moment are a rubbish set up imo.
If we had a 5 or 6 team system, then there's a very real chance that good teams that suffer a blip (Leeds last season and Saints this, for instance) will fail to qualify. Meaning whoever qualifies will deserve it, rather than the 8 least sh*t teams qaulifying.
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| Quote Conman="Conman"Quote Conman="NickyKiss"Yeah that's the issue and is the reason I'm unsure on trying to bring back a promotion/relegation system.
It would add a lot to the game and both leagues but you only need to look at Widnes to see that even with time to plan it's still a very tough ask to get a really competitive side together.'"
It's time to sort the problem out.
The Championships are dying in my opinion.
I can only think of two ways to sort them.
1. Controversial, but they become feeder clubs like in Australia. Those clubs had history also.
2. Plough money into the league, get clubs in a position to spend money and grow. Both unlikely, but they can't just leave it as it is.'"
Can't really argue with that. Leaving the 14 SL clubs as they are, I'd set the feeder clubs up like this:
S.Wales -> Wigan
Leigh -> Saints
Cumbria (W'ton, Barrow, Haven) -> Wire
Hunslet -> Leeds
Keighley -> Bradford
Dewsbury -> Wakey
Batley -> Cas
Fev -> Hull FC
Sheffield -> Hull KR
Fax -> Hudds
N.Wales -> Widnes
Toulouse -> Catalan
Skolars -> Broncos
Manchester (Swinton, Oldham, Rochdale) -> Salford
That leaves the likes of York, Doncaster, Gateshead and the expansions in Northampton and Hemel to either join up with any of the teams listed above or to form a secondary championship. They could then join up with the other teams as and when needed.
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| I go along with Scouse Pie 2 still with the 14 teams. Scrap the Magic weekend. The exiles games will bring in more money, plus it can never be a fair reflection whichever way it is done, such as Wolves V Widnes . Certain points for Wolves which could make all the difference at the end of the season. No team should have an advantage over any other. Top 5 play off only, the top of the league club to get the advantage as reward for finishing top. There would be a couple of games less to play without getting rid of anyone, our game should grow with our own teams not throwing them out.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Superleague and the game could be so much better if it stopped pandering to the small clubs and trying to keep everyone happy.
Changes that need to be made-
Superleague should consist of 12 clubs
The play offs should consist of 6 teams
The Challenge cup Final should be brought forward to mid June with the rounds being around 3-4 weeks apart
We should bring back a GB vs Australia Ashes series ever 4 years
Promotion and relegation brought back? That's the only one I'm unsure of. Maybe the bottom placed club should go down each year but the team that wins the championship grand final would need to meet certain criteria to come up or else the next best ranked club would get in.'"
So who is to be booted out then?
Why dont we start with the clubs that dont have a ground
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| Quote Conman="Conman"Agree with all that bar the last bit.
The different salary caps between SL and Championship mean the teams who get promoted won't be able to sustain a place in SL or have time to build a team worthy of a challenge. I think all of those teams are part-time now and would have to change.
Going full-time and spending more money than they could handle trying to stay in SL would kill most Champ clubs.'"
Well share the bloody money out more evenly then, then there wouldnt be such a gap,
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"So who is to be booted out then?
Why dont we start with the clubs that dont have a ground'"
Yawn.
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| I would get rid of Salford (no fans, ground is very far from the town centre, been unsuccessful for as long as I've been watching, the academy tend to feed off Wire, Saints and Wigan rejects too) and Wakefield (rubbish ground, unsuccessful for as long as I've been watching apart from one year when they made the play offs, not many fans, went into administration not long ago, Castleford and Leeds both nearby)
Go back to having 12 teams (23 games inc magic weekend) with a 6 team play off structure (same method we used to employ). Reducing the number of games makes each league game more important, I don't like meaningless games. With the extra weeks gained by reducing the amount of games I would extend the World Club Challenge to a 6 or 8 team competition between our best and their best, maybe extend the exiles series to three games too. We need to market close games between quality sides.
Internationally I would bring back the NZ and Aus tours. Maybe go:
2013 World Cup
2014 Ashes tour
2015 Four nations
2016 Kiwi tour
Rinse and repeat every four years, being sure to alternate the location so each hemisphere has either the extended WCC competition or an international event
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