We didn't have you on the rack IMO. You're defence was pretty solid in that first 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see us scoring (mainly because you can read most of our plays in advance).

Something we have done since Dobson arrived in Wigan.

When you have the other team on the backfoot, play on.

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looked like you had us on the rack to me.

The one at the very start was baffling from a Wire point of view. We gave you back possession about three times on the bounce, the last set you were quite close to getting through then you got a penalty and took the kick at goal. Ball went down the other end and Atkins blitzed you defence. I've never been a fan of taking the two, even if we did win by it tonight, for me making a side tackle you five times on their own line can be worth more in the long run, and there's always the chance you can score an actual try, you know, the aim. I can accept two pointers when it's close, during the last 5-10 mins or so, but never from the start.

I must admit, I was glad on a couple of occasions that you took the two. Could have been 6.

Absolutely hate it, three times we killed the momentum and territory we had for 2 points - on two of those occasions we then made mistakes that created a platform for Warrington. I just don't like the message that taking the 2 sends out unless it is stretching the lead past a single score or tying / winning the game late. Otherwise it just hands the psychiological advantage to the opposition by accepting you won't get 4 or 6 from the territory.

I'm not trolling**** Great post. I said the same last night about you taking the 2 points. Do you remember thevWidnes Semi Final in 09? That was the only reason we beat you. Same again in that match. It's early days and both are playing silly. Good luck.

Is this a Shaun Wane tactic? Not as though conditions were poor for free flowing rugby. I can understand the two penalities in the second half with scores tight but within first ten minutes, especially all the presssue Wigan had in the Wire 20. Reminds me of the 70s and 80s, take the 2 points.

Nothing wrong with taking the two points. The majority of the time we see teams take a tap and then come up with nothing. The real problem was our stupid discipline, our appalling ball control and Wigan's insistence that with every set we have to score a try. Shifting the ball on tackle 2-3 makes us very predictable. Wane is way out of his depth.

Agree with that right up until the last line

On the 2 occasions that you decided to take the 2 points I was chuffed that you did

I remember in the 2009 Cup semi-final. Wigan deciding to take the penalty to go 8-0 up but all it did was say to Warrington "Actually, we dont think we can get across your try-line" Pyscological advantage of keeping them out automatically goes to the defending team, even if they concede 2 more points.

I havent even read the rest of the thread but this sums it up perfectly for me. Every time we took the 2 Warrington were on the back foot and we gave them an easy way out. Building pressure and making Warrinmgton play out from their own line would have been invaluable, never mind the fact that we may have actually scored tries on the back of it anyway. As it was we took the 2 and on every occasion Warrington scored a try immediately after because we then made a mistake and by taking the 2 had given them easy field position so they could then attack our line.

Spot on, couldn't believe the first one - I saw it as a sign of weakness/lack of confidence.