Don't talk wet lad. We've been getting spanked for nigh on 40 years, so tell how that has benefited the international game?

You're right, but it's just not a great attitude. If we can get 40,000 on Saturday then that would still be a good crowd, just going to look daft in a 90,000 seater stadium.

I'm still going on Saturday, expecting us to lose but International RL is never going to improve if people have this attitude towards it.

Its a realistic attitude, il hold my hands up and admit that im not bothered about the international game, same with football. England are that far bhind Australia now I genuinley cannot see how it will ever improve, in fact it will get worse, *cough Salary cap cough*

Depends how you look at it and if you back it.

That could also read England stun Aussies live on national tv infront of biggest international rugby league crowd seen in Britain for 14 years (that's if it's bigger then the 2000 world cup final crowd at Old Trafford).

England will push them close on Saturday I reckon and the crowd will be around 45k. That would be a step in the right direction.

The proof will be in the pudding, but I would have gone with four props. Madge made the mistake of only going with three props on occasions and we lost those matches. Gaz Carvell would have been in the squad for me.

Gaz Widdop to start is something that should have happened since day one.

Still I am really looking forward to this match. A game at Wembley, against the Aussies, seeing some of the best players in the world in action. I do love International RL.

Moaning that it is half full then not attending (or showing any interest besides posting an opinion about it on the internet..... oddly) is so contradictory it is unbelievable.

McNamara made a right song and dance about getting Widdop yet wont even play him in one of his best positions.

At what point did I "moan"? I merely pointed out a fact.

I Guess you don't rate Wane much then ?

But I agree that McBannana is the worst England coach we have had for many a year !

Widdop is more of a running stand off (bloody 5/8th ) Cronk and Smith run the show and set up the plays, Widdop doesn't really do any of the kicking or organising. Of the 2 halfs so far if either deserves dropping its Chase based on the 2 games so far but, I fail to see how changing the HB partnership at this change would be beneficial. Continuity is important.

I would agree regarding the debate over having a full time coach. No coach worth his salt is going to give his club job for (what is essentially) an admin job with a few games at the end of the year.

Argh! The man's an idiot! Widdop to 6, 4 props => We'd get beat but maybe have a chance of making it respectable. I think it could be 30 or 40+ on Saturday now. The truly infuriating thing about it is even that wouldnt make the RFL admit their mistake and get shot of McNamara!