stuggle with them crossfield kicks with todays wing and centres look at difference in height and spring when pat and amos are there

Correct me if i'm wrong but Deacon has gone off twice in 5 games yet still played the week after sorry but i'm failing to see a liability anywhere.

Its the fact that he's going off early on in games leaving us with no direction and our game plan to pot. I know its not his fault that he gets knocked out but maybe its his body telling him he cant take the knocks anymore.

The kicking is our biggest issue/problem area.

I’d prefer for the time being if we just found touch by drilling the bar across the floor at speed. Were already missing Pat’s aerial presence and all we seem to do is kick the ball into the hands of the FB/Winger.

you cant play 60 mins with 3 subs a make shift 6 and game plan to pot against wire stains and well not so much leeds

iv said this to a couple to people but if your needing a big clearing kick and the opposition have 2 or 3 people dropping back its very difficult to find the floor, the thing what wigan do do well at what goes un-noticed is after a generally poor kick we always dominate the first tackle which is a big thing in our game

I don't disagree with you of course it's hard to play 60+ minutes when an important player goes off, I do however don't appreciate you suggesting he is becoming a liability based on 2 incidents he wasn't a liability last October when he played his part in Gleesons second try or his general play in helping us to even get to the Grand Final dare I suggest you wouldn't make your earlier statement had it been Sam Tomkins or Pat Richards is Richards a liability for getting injured in the Grand Final that could have cost us the win and would have for virtually every other team.

We cant be missing him if he hasn't played, but I get your point. We're playing with the same halves that won the title for us last year (except for when Tommy covers for McIlorum). With a bit of luck Finch will step into Deac's boots soon, then with Paaaaat back and Sam in his rightful place at 6 we'll be scoring for fun.

Agree with the posts regarding our kicking game, but it's been poor for ages and we've managed. Never seen Finch play but those who have say he's the missing link we've been waiting for in that department. Exciting times ahead.

I STILL prefer Sam in the halves than at full-back. He's never a full-back in a million years.

You never know with Radlinski coaching him he could just turn into a good 'un. Right now he's sadly wasted there, but if the long-term view is that he's going to be coached into being a full-back then he has to play there to learn it.

Personally I wouldn't bother, he a cast-iron number six. Train someone else upicon_smile.gif

Probably a week too early for Finch next week but might be a chance for Warrington. Excited by what he could bring to the side over time.

Sam Tomkins is a fullback in my opinion but its a pointless arguement anyway because I guarantee he'll play there all the time under Maguire unless there's a real emergency.

To be fair to Deacon I think anyone would have been injured after the hit he took today... I thought it might be a long term injury. lets hope it isn't because IMO he was our best signing in 2009 by a country mile

Maguire said that Finch is seeing the doctor this week and is very close. Deacon looked in a very bad way when he went off.
Sam must stay at full back the number of head shots he took today was all wrong. If he'd played at 6 today he would have been in the dressing room before Deacon. Hull would have seen to that.

Speaking of liabilities, anyone know why Roberts wasn't selected today? Assume there was still a problem with his knee.

If Deacon is out for next Friday, I'd like to see Roberts return to full-back and Sam move into the halves.