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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: odemwingie "Unlike most players he has the all round game to unlock a team in a different way, using his pace or reading the game like he did for his try.'"
Any chump knows to follow Meli if he's attempting to field a kick  |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Any chump knows to follow Meli if he's fielding a kick ![]()
I have no comeback to that 
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "I have no comeback to that ![]()
I changed my post to reflect reality a touch more
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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It's just WIGAN, nothing else. Get rid of that stupid nickname.:12150.jpg |
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It's Tomkins.
Not bloody Tompkins.
Tomkins, Tomkins, Tomkins. How hard can it be to copy a name out correctly?
Good grief!
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I think Tomkins was by far the better player on Friday night but Eastmond is inconsistent and he was much better against Wire than against you lot. I think he may be a confidence player whereas Tomkins doesn't give the impression of being short on confidence.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I think Tomkins was by far the better player on Friday night but Eastmond is inconsistent and he was much better against Wire than against you lot. I think he may be a confidence player whereas Tomkins doesn't give the impression of being short on confidence.'"
Eastmond was very good against warrington but I do not think he is a confidence player. Kevin Brown is a confidence player. |
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Both are young with lots of potential. I think Wigan fans have gone a bit overboard on how good Tomkins [icurrently[/i is, just as Saints fans have gone overboard on how good Eastmond [icurrently[/i is.
IMO Tomkins is currently benefiting from having a settled role in your team, whereas Eastmond hasn't had that as yet in ours. Both need time to settle into their roles and learn to play the game.
Oh yeah, and Tomkins is turning into a niggly little b*st*rd which, as someone said on Redvee, is good because we haven't had a Wigan player to hate since Farrell left ![]()
Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.
I do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn. |
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15th October 1989 - the beginning of a love affair.
Wigan RLFC for life.
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| Quote: odemwingie "Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.
I do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn.'"
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| Quote: Random Male "Wasnt much between them on friday. Tompkins wasnt as good as people suggest, he was just noticed more because Wigans one and only plan consisted of giving him the ball, which is the reason wigan lacked anything in attack, because Tompkins doesnt know how to unlock a drilled defence.
Eastmond had to share playmaking duties with a number of other players so wasnt probably noticed as much, but showed his vision by nearly putting a couple of players through gaps, and nearly making breaks himself. Desperate defending from Wigan stopped these breaks.
Eastmond is rated higher by coaches and his peers and I also agree with this sentiment, that he will turn out the overall better player. Probably by some margin too.'" cant help thinking your a stains fan |
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.'"
I agree with that, but I think Tomkins has more of a defined role within the which can make it easier for him.
Quote: odemwingie "I do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn.'"
Saints players? I don't know anything about the players hating him. I'm also led to believe that Martyn is a nice guy. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I agree with that, but I think Tomkins has more of a defined role within the which can make it easier for him.
Saints players? I don't know anything about the players hating him. I'm also led to believe that Martyn is a nice guy.'"
Sorry I meant fans! |
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| Quote: wigan pie man "if eastmond hadnt scored the winning try he would have been fairly anonymous.................'"
Apart from consistently finding space (especially from distance) with his kicking (something Saints have struggled to achieve for some time), being halted half a metre before the line on his way to a second try, showing excellent hands (given the conditions) taking a trio of shocking passes without knocking on, demonstrating solidity and tenacity in defence etc. etc. etc. |
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I don't think that there is a lot between the two of them. In one game Sam may play better then it could be reversed the next. Both have got quite a bit of developing to do IMO and it will be interesting how they compare this time next year.
I think it is great that there are these two, plus Myler, who can possibly develop into world class players to give the Aussies a run for their money.
If they all keep fit it's a pity that one of them will be the bridesmaid as far as international honours are concerned, unless Sam develops as a centre later?
Who will it be? My money's on Myler as the misser due to his woeful defence. What do you think?
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