It’s not just as simple as investing in the squad, that needs addressing yes but it’s plain to see a badly coached side, it’s as if they don’t know what to do and it’s either because what Lams telling them is garbage, what he’s telling them they don’t agree with and aren’t doing it or what’s in his mind he isn’t getting it across to the players. I’d say what he’s telling them is garbage, he’d probably make a good assistant coach but he’s in way over his head.

You can flog him over the current state of performances

However to slate him for eh Barca trip?!

I bet he has got stick from some fans. Looking at some of the dirge posted on here by a few of the merry moaning men and woman, the are pretty much impossible to please.

Who’s slating him for the Barcelona trip? It’s more like the Millwall game which he’s saying he got stick for and rightly so.

You seriously think a game with political overtones is an advert for taking games away from your core support?

The Barca was a qualified success because of the Catalan region,I hope Catalan can harness it and push on we shall see,every time Wigan both to millwall(why?) and the ludicrous game down under have hurt relations with the home support,the Australian. Game in particular as most couldn’t go,but hey let’s continue to take games away from the DW and he won’t have many season ticket holders left as it does seem to be down again this season,times are hard and people expect value for money not to be insulted by a “price freeze”

As for Lam I’ve seen nothing to suggest he is the right chap for the job,poor in attack and poor in defence is all I’ve seen so far and the added comedy value of most of the team blowing out of their buns after 20 mins,which I grant isn’t down to Lam but he should be and hopefully is doing something about that.

Spot on. You can also throw Hull In Wollongong in there as well. Nothing benefited the team from playing in Australia with the exception being that it put our players in the shop window and made it easier for aussie agents to meet them face to face. Oh and lets not forget, those that went do have some nice photo's to remember the occasion by.

The negativity never ceases to amaze me.

IL says he is reluctant to take games away from the DW because of the stick from some season ticket holders. So your criticising him for listening to the fans?

What else should he say about Lam, whether you think he should get the job or not to come out and say he has no chance (even if true) would benefit no one. All it would do is create more uncertainty in the camp & demotivate the coaching and playing staff.

I actually think that Lam should be given the job but I also think that he needs to bring in an assistant, not one of Shaun Wane's leftovers but someone with no connections to the club and for me Tony Smith would be a good fit.

I don't know what people have seen to warrant giving Lam the job.
Looking at the way we play, attitude of the players, league position etc, how exactly has he earned a head coaches job?

All his stint as done is boost Wane's profile.

No, I’m criticising him for moaning about he stick he’s gettimg. It’s like me moaning that my Mrs gives me stick for going out of the lash Friday night and coming home Sunday.

With regards Lam, he should be back down under looking for another job. I gave him a chance but we are half way through the season and still look like a bunch of strangers who’ve turned up to play a game of rugby for a third team.

I think IL got stick for taking home games away from the DW due to the distance involved in both. I'm a STH and I went to the one at Millwall but the stated intention (by IL) of boosting the clubs profile through the Millwall and Australia games was just nonsense. It was never going to work as both are too far away from the club for anyone local that attended (spectators or businesses) to care for much more than the duration of the games. Both were also far too inconvenient for our home support to attend even if you ignore the cost involved.

Had he taken those games to Anfield, the Etihad or even somewhere like Preston we could have improved our profile in the wider NW region, it would have been much easier and cheaper for our fanbase to attend and we could have got some new spectators within those areas, who would feasibly be able to travel regularly to attend our games at the DW and some new sponsors on board. I'm sure he would have got a lot less critcism over venue choices too.

I have not got a problem with us having a game each season taken away from the DW but the choice of alternate venue has to be much better thought out than the two previous attempts.

What would it achieve if Lam was sent home tomorrow? We’d have no head coach, we’d have no chance of getting one in if any sort of quality therefore Winder would be appointed until the end of the season leaving us without an assistant.

Look at Leeds, how have they benefited from sacking Furner?

Whether Lam is the right choice for next season and beyond is a matter for debate, I’m still open minded, I wouldn’t object but it depends on who else is available and interested in the job.

For this season sacking him now in my opinion will only make the situation worse.

I partly agree. For me, Lam is completely the wrong fit for this Wigan team. Whatever's happened since he arrived, we are simply the pits. I'm so weary of this worst-ever-form that I can't even be bothered going through all the things wrong with us, because they are legion. But I do agree that releasing him now would be self-defeating. At least as long as he's here, believing he has a chance of getting the job full-time, he has a motivation to try to create a winning format. If he was relased or was told that he was being released in the autumn, the opposite would be true.

Hopefully though, the chairman is already looking elsewhere for next season, for players as well as a coach - because Lam should only leave this club as part of a massive overhaul.

We genuinely need to rebuild from the bottom up.

We may benefit from starting to play like a team that knows what they’re doing which in turn may get bums back on seats and at least give the fans something to cheer for the rest of the season. 2006 is the lowest point in modern times but at least that season was saved by sacking Millward and signing Dobson, Fielden and co, at least we give it a go. What we are doing now is saying we aren’t abysmal but we will keep on going down that route.

Half a story. 2006 was saved by sacking Millward after finding the coach who would replace him then signing Dobson and Fielden by re-negotiating existing contracts to create space in the cap, a practice which is now not allowed and one we got penalised for even though it wasn’t against the rules at the time.

Where is the next coach going to come from? Where are the players and cap space going to come from?