How many games will he get for that disgusting tackle on Wells,the amount of times people have rightly criticised Wigan for those types of tackles,it will be interesting to see the outcome from the disciplinary.We need the video referee to help the onfield referee in situations like these

I thought the same thing. Has that been a Wigan player commentators would have been up in arms and sky would have showed a thousand replays, there would also be a 20 page thread on the VT (there may be I haven’t looked).

It was direct contact with the knee against its natural movement and caused medial ligament damage, he should get matches for it.

I wouldn’t call it disgusting, players sometimes get it wrong, on this occasion he got it wrong.

An accidental tip tackle and a half d attack on the kicker (not in the same league as some the likes of Lam used to take in a derby) are sin bin offences but a cannonball tackle isn't even put on report by the ref.

Interesting.

Then again they could also have seen yellows for a crusher and a chicken wing in that tackle and didn't

The chicken wing, certainly. Didn’t see the crusher.

Graham ends up pushing down on his neck after walmsley chops him in half

It wasn’t the worst I’ve seen but still clumsy. I don’t even think the evil Wigan team have managed an attempted chicken wing (by Graham), to then go in to a crusher tackle (Graham) whilst Walmsley then goes in for the joints of the knee.

All were just a bit clumsy and I’d be very surprised if any bans came out of it but we’d be crucified for that sequence.

Not just me then! Wells avoids the chicken wing, it then goes in to a crusher and Walmsley puts the cherry on top taking his knee.

I’ve been frustrated enough by our bans to say there’s not a great deal in any of them ‘but’ if that was a sequence involving Wigan, there would be two bans on the back of it without any question.

If Terry O’Connor doesn’t go “ooooo that’s a shocker that” it’s not a crusher tackle.

Clumsy gets bans, have done for a fair while now.

Is basically it yes. I’m not sure what my eyes are seeing each week because things look crystal clear but it’s one rule for one and a totally different set of rules for others. How Brad Fash avoids a ban last week and just gets a caution is simply beyond me. The same for Jordan Lane the week before. To me it’s simply a case of not banning players for team who are short on numbers in their cases.

Anybody any ideas why James Graham got about 5 minutes to patch a cut up early doors tonight? Other than the fact it’s James Graham of course. If that’s a young kid, he’s off to the blood bin within 30 seconds.

They do in some cases but not all. I’ve lost all confidence in the process.

I was being a bit of a WUM on the Flower thread but what I was saying was true in a way.

We have a reputation that we are a dirty side. Probably based on our aggression under Madge that sides couldn't live with and then Waney didn't exactly help. Man Utd have the old "Fergie time" myth.

Ben Flower will always be judged on the GF incident even though his record is pretty clean. A high shot is seen as a pre-meditated assualt like Morley for GB.

The list of players injured by this dirty Wigan side that goes out to hurt people is minimal, but yet the tackles like Rangi Chase on Manfredi are very rarely mentioned. Lockers eye injury was a freak accident but roles reversed and he's a cheap shot merchant or he deliberately gouged him.

It's something we will struggle to shake (see the above utd reference) but it definitely exists even if it is sub conciously.

Why did they not have to go off for HIAs? A clear clash of heads. Granted they would probably have passed, but poor player welfare IMO

Wondered the same. They both looked groggy in the immediate aftermath.

Now then Nicky lad, Brad Fash tackle on the knees was correctly explained, the tackle was aimed at the natural movement of the knees, unlike Alex Walmsley tackle this evening, which was a tackle in an unnatural position of the knees.

You will also find that both Hull clubs, suffer continuous bans from this inept system of judiciary, we’ve had a player banned in super league fixtures, after being yellow carded in a pre season friendly.