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| What we thinking? Full strength then rest players against Saints? or a bit of a mix and max job trying to ensure most players don’t play more than 2 of the next 3? I’d have gone option one but with that Saints game being pushed to Tuesday, I may edge towards the second option. I don’t think you can go full strength for the 3 games regardless.
Flower and Liam Byrne are both available according to Lam, whereas Singleton will be a couple of weeks. Manfredi is out with his head knock.
I’d probably go-
French
Bibby Hankinson Gildart Burgess
H Smith Leuluai
Flower Powell Havard
Isa Greenwood Lockers
Subs-Clark Byrne Shorrocks Bourouh
Rests for Hardaker, Hastings, Partington and Farrell with those to play against both Saints and Leeds. Then rests for French, Leuluai, Havard and Lockers against Saints with somebody like Willie Isa getting his minutes limited as well. Only lads playing 3 games would be a couple of outside backs and then Harry Smith and a few forwards who play limited minutes anyway.
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| If I was the Saints’ coach I’d tell my players to hit Wigan really hard so...if I was Lam I’d keep my semi final team out of harm’s way.
Not sue if we have enough players for a second team but I would play our second team against Saints.
Play our semi final team against Wakefield and then they will have eight days rest before the Leeds match.Don’t forget that Saints have no match until the Wigan game. They’ll be chomping at the bit!
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| Would have been handy to keep hold of escare. Could have rested French and brought him in
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| Full strength for me, then weak against Saints. If we mix and match we risk getting 0 points out of 4 instead of 2
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| Play our best team and win
(I seem to remember saying something similar before the HKR game).
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| Quote: Jukesays "Play our best team and win
(I seem to remember saying something similar before the HKR game).'"
Correct. We are just beginning to click, now is not the time to start tinkering.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Play our best team and win
(I seem to remember saying something similar before the HKR game).'"
You were absolutely correct on that one but these are different circumstances wouldn’t you say? Would you go full strength for Saints and then Leeds also? That is one hell of a tough ask on those players, especially the older guys and the forwards who play big minutes.
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| I'll never advocate playing a weak team against St Helens no matter what the situation. Just isn't an option for me.
Of course I want to win the semi final (and the cup for that matter) but losing to saints will never feel right
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| Quote: NickyKiss "You were absolutely correct on that one but these are different circumstances wouldn’t you say? Would you go full strength for Saints and then Leeds also? That is one hell of a tough ask on those players, especially the older guys and the forwards who play big minutes.'"
Were talking about the wakefield game
I've said it before, were not good enough to pick and choose.
Make no bones about it, if we drop 10/15% wakey will smell blood and then it becomes a real dog fight.
I'll tell you what I would do about the saints game after weve played wakefield.
Lose to wakefield and WE HAVE TO WIN against saints. Beat wakefield and we can pick our best/fittest team for saints
Dont get too far ahead of ourselves.
Wakey will have 8/9 days compared to our 6, theyll be smarting from their recent losees, every loss their 1 closer to the win. Let's give them respect and not get caught as Grimmy put it worrying about next week, mixing and matching, and losing both.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "You were absolutely correct on that one but these are different circumstances wouldn’t you say? Would you go full strength for Saints and then Leeds also? That is one hell of a tough ask on those players, especially the older guys and the forwards who play big minutes.'"
You would hope if we play our best team against Wakefield and turn up with a good attitude we'll win. Even if we play our best team against Saints we could still lose and get no points whilst draining the energy of our players.
Weighing it up I'd play the best side against Wakefield, play a weakened team against Saints and take the hit to ensure all is good for Leeds.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Were talking about the wakefield game
I've said it before, were not good enough to pick and choose.
Make no bones about it, if we drop 10/15% wakey will smell blood and then it becomes a real dog fight.
I'll tell you what I would do about the saints game after weve played wakefield.
Lose to wakefield and WE HAVE TO WIN against saints. Beat wakefield and we can pick our best/fittest team for saints
Dont get too far ahead of ourselves.
Wakey will have 8/9 days compared to our 6, theyll be smarting from their recent losees, every loss their 1 closer to the win. Let's give them respect and not get caught as Grimmy put it worrying about next week, mixing and matching, and losing both.'"
Plus they have a good few of their better players back.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "I'll never advocate playing a weak team against St Helens no matter what the situation. Just isn't an option for me.
Of course I want to win the semi final (and the cup for that matter) but losing to saints will never feel right'"
Are you the person who follows round a newly appointed coach and tell him in Tesco - “ I don’t care what you do just beat saints”
I’d much rather Saints beat us in a random weekly fixture and we win the challenge cup.
We simply can’t play full straight 3 time in 8 days and expect to get results.
Full strength for Wakefield and heavily rotate for Saints.
The semi final should be the priority.
I’d have much preferred to be playing Saints this Friday and wakefield in the week but not to be.
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| Quote: NSW "Are you the person who follows round a newly appointed coach and tell him in Tesco - “ I don’t care what you do just beat saints”
I’d much rather Saints beat us in a random weekly fixture and we win the challenge cup.
We simply can’t play full straight 3 time in 8 days and expect to get results.
Full strength for Wakefield and heavily rotate for Saints.
The semi final should be the priority.
I’d have much preferred to be playing Saints this Friday and wakefield in the week but not to be.'"
Yep that's me. I usually tell to win the cup too.
I understand the situation, it just won't feel right.
A Liverpool fan would want to win a CL semi final above a Utd game, but they will still hate losing said Utd game.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Were talking about the wakefield game
I've said it before, were not good enough to pick and choose.
Make no bones about it, if we drop 10/15% wakey will smell blood and then it becomes a real dog fight.
I'll tell you what I would do about the saints game after weve played wakefield.
Lose to wakefield and WE HAVE TO WIN against saints. Beat wakefield and we can pick our best/fittest team for saints
Dont get too far ahead of ourselves.
Wakey will have 8/9 days compared to our 6, theyll be smarting from their recent losees, every loss their 1 closer to the win. Let's give them respect and not get caught as Grimmy put it worrying about next week, mixing and matching, and losing both.'"
I’d be up for them going full strength against Wakey for sure but regardless of the result we’d then have to rest players against Saints. We couldn’t lose the game and then say ‘we need points against Saints’ so throw the same 17 in again and then again against Leeds IMO. That would be potential suicide on all fronts. It leaves you the two options I mention-
1-Wakey-Full strength, Saints-8 or 9 rested, Leeds-Full strength
2-Wakey-Rest 4 or 5, Saints-Rest 4 or 5, Leeds-Full strength.
The Wakefield result wouldn’t have a baring on my Saints team personally. Win the Wakey game and it’s happy days with pressure off that Saints game but lose against Wakey and I wouldn’t panic and throw important players in again. We can pull two league defeats back (although it would be tough) but we can’t pull a cup semi final defeat back.
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| Full strength against Wakefield and give Wells Killner and Hankinson a chance against saints they've been waiting long enough for a chance and we may need them further down the line
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