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In my lifetime it would look something like this

1. S. Tomkins
2. Robinson
3. Tuigamala
4. Connolly
5. Offiah
6. Paul
7. Edwards
8. Skerrett
9. Newton
10. Cowie
11. Betts
12. Bateman
13. A Farrell

Subs.

14. Carmont
15. O'Connor
16. Quinnell
17. O'Loughlin

These kind of things have been done to death but the point i am making is that we have 4 players in our current side that have the potential to break into my team. French, Hastings, G.Burgess and Smithies, possibly Harry Smith on the early glimpses but that is a long way off. Have we had a side in the last 10 years with as much potential? And why aren't we getting the best out of these players? (with the exception of Smithies who is seemingly self driven)

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This is based on players being at their best, not always their wigan form, ie Bowen at NQC

1. Bowen (NQC form)
2. Robinson
3. Renouf (Brisbane form)
4. Tuigamala
5. Offiah
6. Kenny
7. Gregory
8. Shelford
9. Dermot
10. Smith
11. Betts
12. Farrell
13. Hanley

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1) Sam Tomkins
2) Billy Boston
3) Inga Tuigamala
4) Alan Davies
5) Marin Offiah
6) Brett Kenny
7) Shaun Edwards
8 ) Kelvin Skerrett
9) Martin Dermott
10) Brian McTigue
11) Andy Farrell
12) Dennis Betts
13) Ellery Hanley

14) Dean Bell
15) Craig Smith
16) Terry Newton
17) Sean O'Loughlin

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1. Hampson
2. Robinson
3. Bell
4. Connerly
5. Offiah
6. Barrett
7. Gregory
8. Skerrett
9. Newton
10. Platt
11. Betts
12. Farrell
13. Hanley

14. O’Connor
15. Cowie
16. H.Paul
17. Edwards

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Sam isn't the best fullback I've seen at Wigan. He's an out and out half. To pick him there above someone like Radlinksi or Hampson is ridiculous.

Edit, and for someone like RG to say he's the best FB he has ever seen icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Sam isn't the best fullback I've seen at Wigan. He's an out and out half. To pick him there above someone like Radlinksi or Hampson is ridiculous.'"


Disagree, and I go back to the days of Jackie Cunliffe, Fred Griffiths, Colin Tyrer, George Fairbairn etc etc. Sam is the most complete fullback I have ever seen at Wigan, certainly the most exciting/entertaining and the one who put most fear into the opposition. Just my opinion of course icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Sam isn't the best fullback I've seen at Wigan. He's an out and out half. To pick him there above someone like Radlinksi or Hampson is ridiculous.

Edit, and for someone like RG to say he's the best FB he has ever seen
Hes the best Ive seen also

Not sure why theres any discussion around him being a FB
Hes played 99% of a 10 year career so far at FB, so hes a FB.

Ball in hand Hampson and Rads were limited, Sam is the best attacking FB I've seen at Wigan
Only cameos from Blake and Robert's come anywhere near close

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Sam in his first spell or Roberts pre injury, unplayable at times

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World class player but I wouldn't be picking him at 1. The role of fullback has changed over the years and suits him and his attacking abilities but I still prefer a FB to be someone I would put my life on making a tackle or taking a catch and I don't have that with Sam.

For the record my side (around 92 onwards from memory) would be:

Radlinski
Richards
Renouf
Connolly
Offiah
Sam
Edwards
O'Connor
McCormack
Smith
Betts
Hoffman
Farrell

Subs: O'Loughlin, Newton, Cowie, Fielden

Few explanations:

Rads gets in based on what I said above. If someone breaks I have every faith that Rads cuts them in half.

Gene Miles misses out based on the fact I remember little about him playing aside from old videos I've watched, same with Andy Platt and Dean Bell.

McCormack was only here a year but was outstanding.

Cowie gets in pretty much due to the longevity of me seeing him play and Fielden is based on his 06 and 2010 form. Mentions for Skerrett and Pongia.

I was tempted to put Faz at 12 and SOL at 13 which wouldn't be a bad thing really but used SOL as a utility instead.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Sam isn't the best fullback I've seen at Wigan. He's an out and out half. To pick him there above someone like Radlinksi or Hampson is ridiculous.

Edit, and for someone like RG to say he's the best FB he has ever seen
2010 - 2013 he was unplayable. But I would put Radlinski above him, just.

1. Radlinski
2. Dallas
3. Gleeson
4. Renouf
5. Offiah
6. Barrett
7. Edwards
8. Skerrett
9. Newton
10. O’Connor
11. L Farrell
12. A Farrell
13. Hanley

Bench
S Tomkins
Craig Smith
Betts
Lockers

That was a lot more difficult than I thought it was going to be! Notable absentees include Williams, Clarke, Richards, Pongia, Fielden, Amos, Henry Paul, Lam - I could sit here all day listing players. It goes to show the quality of our teams over the years.

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Quote: Jukesays "Hes the best Ive seen also

Not sure why theres any discussion around him being a FB
Hes played 99% of a 10 year career so far at FB, so hes a FB.

Ball in hand Hampson and Rads were limited, Sam is the best attacking FB I've seen at Wigan
Only cameos from Blake and Robert's come anywhere near close'"


I agree. Sam (for me) is the 2nd best British born Wigan player I've seen play for us in nearly forty years. First being Hanley, never mind full back.

His 2nd spell came back and played a totally different style of game which was successful, could very easily have let it all collapse. His part in Rectumgate prematurely ended his career with us I think, had that not happened (with his brother's subsequent departure) I think we may have fought off any bids for him.

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I'd take a 2010-2013 Tomkins over any version of Kris Radlinski

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "1) Sam Tomkins
2) Billy Boston
3) Inga Tuigamala
4) Alan Davies
5) Marin Offiah
6) Brett Kenny
7) Shaun Edwards
8 ) Kelvin Skerrett
9) Martin Dermott
10) Brian McTigue
11) Andy Farrell
12) Dennis Betts
13) Ellery Hanley

14) Dean Bell
15) Craig Smith
16) Terry Newton
17) Sean O'Loughlin'"


Some interesting selections there.
No place for Bill Ashurst is a bit of a surprise.
I never saw Alan Davies but my older brothers raves about him. I always remember the photo of him after a win drinking a cup of tea as he was a Jehovah’s Witness.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I'd take a 2010-2013 Tomkins over any version of Kris Radlinski'"


In attack, every day of the week. Defensively, never in a million years.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "In attack, every day of the week. Defensively, never in a million years.'"


Same argument going on with Zak and French
Defensively he may have to make 2/3/4 situations in a game
Attacking wise a FB influences virtually EVERYTHING you do ball in hand.
Whilst Zak may have made quite a few great saves last year, weve looked far more dangerous and all round a better team IMO
I am certain at some point French will do something that will make someone say Hardaker would have saved that. But ball in hand he will have created 10x times more problems for the opposition in the meantime

And dont underestimate Sam defensively
He very rarely messed up and cost us games, and when a big tackle was needed or a high ball taking he very rarely let anyone down.

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