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| Been watching lots of 90s games last few weeks and one thing that stands out is that despite claims to contrary, the Wigan players back in the 90s were every bit as fit as today. Id even go as far as to say the props were fitter. The game was every bit as fast, if not faster and the props played long minutes without a break and never looked out on their feet like so many do today after 20 minutes. Kelvin Skerrett was doing 60+ minutes without any noticeable drop off in intensity. Why are todays props so unfit when they have better training facilities and nutrition? Is it a mental thing because they know they will be coming off at a certain time or are they really only able to manage 20 minutes?
One other observation, the early 90s Wigan teams would beat todays team easily. The attacking play was on another planet.
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| In 10 years time we will have the same discussion about fitness now (then) and the fitness of the players in the future.
After all the implants and genetic modificatons of course
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Been watching lots of 90s games last few weeks and one thing that stands out is that despite claims to contrary, the Wigan players back in the 90s were every bit as fit as today. Id even go as far as to say the props were fitter. The game was every bit as fast, if not faster and the props played long minutes without a break and never looked out on their feet like so many do today after 20 minutes. Kelvin Skerrett was doing 60+ minutes without any noticeable drop off in intensity. Why are todays props so unfit when they have better training facilities and nutrition? Is it a mental thing because they know they will be coming off at a certain time or are they really only able to manage 20 minutes?
One other observation, the early 90s Wigan teams would beat todays team easily. The attacking play was on another planet.'"
And there was not the number of substitutions like we have now, just two substitutes which were more often than not a back and a forward.
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| Teams defend far better today than in the early '90s. We were also playing oppositions who might have had only one or two full time pro players compared to Wigan who had a full squad of full timers.
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| Smaller players, less players involved in the tackle, and a 5 metre rule probably meant the required fitness levels then were lower.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Smaller players, less players involved in the tackle, and a 5 metre rule probably meant the required fitness levels then were lower.'"
10 metres in the 90's
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| Quote: Pieman "10 metres in the 90's'"
From 1993 and defences took a couple of years to adapt.
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| Any excuse to try and belittle Wigans success back then and how good we were.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "From 1993 and defences took a couple of years to adapt.'"
no they didnt
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| You were good no doubt about that ! You signed all the best players and were one of only 2 full time teams , unfortunately it meant eventually you had to sell your ground
and you are still suffering from it now .
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "You were good no doubt about that ! You signed all the best players and were one of only 2 full time teams , unfortunately it meant eventually you had to sell your ground
and you are still suffering from it now .'"
2/10. Must try harder
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "You were good no doubt about that ! You signed all the best players and were one of only 2 full time teams , unfortunately it meant eventually you had to sell your ground
and you are still suffering from it now .'"
yeah we never won anything since.....
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "You were good no doubt about that ! You signed all the best players and were one of only 2 full time teams , unfortunately it meant eventually you had to sell your ground
and you are still suffering from it now .'"
like Hanley, Iro, Schofield, Tait and the Widnes pack, look at our teams in the 94 final and look at how many came through the youth system from both teams, you had 3 we had 7 in the 15 but we bought everyone?
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| Quote: Pieman "like Hanley, Iro, Schofield, Tait and the Widnes pack, look at our teams in the 94 final and look at how many came through the youth system from both teams, you had 3 we had 7 in the 15 but we bought everyone?'"
Leeds fans try to forget they were the richest club in the league because it won them the square root of nothing.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Leeds fans try to forget they were the richest club in the league because it won them the square root of nothing.'"
Let's just say its a good job we weren't allowed to compete in the Yorkshire Cup as well.
It gave them something to polish now and again I suppose.
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