Why dont we study videos from the early 90s and recreate some of the moves?

All this structured swinging the ball from left to right and no variation or set plays is making the game too robotic and boring.

Watch Australias first try in the 95 World Cup Final. Not one team seems capable of that kind of play these days.

Absolutely - clubs need to incorporate more variation in their attack. Games are often monotonous, formulaic and repetitive. Go back to the mid 90s yes but you don't even have to go back that far - if you look at some of the games in the early 2000's and check out some of the attacking play there you despair at what games are like now.

I’ve long thought about that to be honest. But equally I think the way teams play these days is that style but evolved and arguably more refined.

There’s a lot to consider really, even though the suggestion is relatively simple. Defensive structures have moved on from those of the 90’s and 00’s, player shape, game speed.

Perhaps I’m over complicating it but it really is an interesting debating topic; will going back in time for moves/plays send us ahead of our time now?

I think its more about seeking inspiration for ideas rather than copying moves like for like.

Castleford brought a simple run around into their play a couple of years ago and it ripped a few teams apart just because it was something different.

I agree, to a point. Games are very much the same now week in and week out, little differs between teams other than the name on the shirt.

Thing is there is just so much more to it than how we move the ball around. Early 90s, players weren't as fit, there weren't the number of subs, there wasnt the sports science there is now. Teams/players are so much fitter and well drilled now, the gaps just aren't there that where there in the early 90s.

It’s amazing how a simple move can open a defence like that just because it’s something they’ve not planned for. We had joy in 2010 with Joel Tomkins running a diagonal line off the dummy half and flicking the ball to Sam running the opposite line but we don’t seem to have invention in our play like that anymore.

Fair point.

In that respect plays were much simpler back then but equally we haven’t moved too much away from it. The game still incorporates simple drop offs, run around, jockey plays. The only thing that is changing is the props passing the ball IMO. Like I said I think it’s more the game has evolved in attack to stay in front of evolving defensive structures rather than we’ve moved away from the style of 90’s and 00’s deliberately.

Hit the nail on the head. Add the way teams control the ruck in defence now which means that you simply aren't facing a scattered/retreating defence anywhere near as often as teams were previously. I see teams from years ago willing to go 5 - 10 metres back with the ball to create space to put a move on. Do that against today's defences and you simply lose those metres and get a slow ptb too.

We had quite a few successful set plays under Madge but Waney got rid of them.

I think we will see more of the runaround move now that French is at 6 because of his electric pace and wicked sidestep

One thing you don’t see anymore and id like to see it tried to see if it worked was the kicker dropping deep on the 5th with the kick chase being deliberately offside and having to give the kick returner 10m, it would work it you were in your own half and needed to get out of there. It used to be common place and there are negatives to it, like leaving the kicker all alone and if they spill the ball it’s a walk in try or the defence has to get back quick and will be knackered. Still, I’d like to see if it would work.

I’ve always thought this. A simple runaround kills some D. I think that Hastings will be a wonder if given half the space a freedom he had at Salford. I understand 4quick drives, fall on your stomach, bounce up and roll on - producesspace, disorganised D, then either a play to the outer side or penalty give. All that in our own 40. Anything beyond 40 we should think quick roll on and then put attacking plays on. I think the wane era ( which I’m not knocking) is still partially with us.

Our Attack was better under Wane than Lam.

Want to see some set plays introduced this year

I think last season showed how much we missed Sam Tomkins. He did so much work off the ball in terms of organisation and talking to players that without him this season just gone, we looked lost. Also he was the man to come up with the match winning plays to get us the win like in some close games in 2018 (the drop goal v leeds from near the touch line springs to mind)

Don’t buy into the ‘our attack was better under wane’ as the only difference is that wane had a genuine match winner to get us out of trouble in games we never looked like winning.

The attack was much the same for me but Wane didn’t ever make statements that his team would play rugby that would blow your socks off. At his original press conference Lam promised attacking and entertaining rugby, to the point where even Edwards joked he would buy a season ticket but aside from a fleeting glimpse of it around April time, we never really saw it. He was actually very conservative in his selections, leaving out attacking players like Escare and Greenwood on a regular basis.

No excuses next season. In terms of personnel, he has some unbelievable attacking talent at his disposal. If you can’t get a back line including French, Hardaker, Manfredi, Gildart and Hastings playing entertaining rugby on the back of a bigger pack and threats on the edge through Farrell and Greenwood, then you’ll struggle to do it with any side.