7 home defeats and our coach would have taken that at the start of the year!!!

Pretty astounded

Waney says if he would have been offered at the start of the year winning a 1 off game against the Aussies, and getting beat at Wembley but missing out on the 4 he would have taken that.

I AM A SHAUN WANE ADVOCATE BUT COME ON SHAUN, GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE.

STATEMENTS LIKE THIS JUST DONT HELP AFTER THE CRAP WE SAW AT THE WEEKEND.

That sums up our attitude perfectly!

I too have been an advocate of SW but this is surprising. The very very least he should accept is to make the play offs. Anything less is pure and simple a failed season.

I've not seen the quote so unsure where it is from however if confirmed it did come from Wane and within the club it follows a long line of very negative and poor messages from within the club this year.

Not making the play offs is a failure he can dress it up all he wants but we as a club have massively undercheived in relation to performance this year.

It's yet another example of the arrogance that seems to emminate from within the club towards the fans at a time when after a season to forget and season ticket sales crucial after losing £60k last season they would be going out of their way to court the fans not tell us we should be lucky at what we have done this year.

Des Hasler just become available....just saying.

This is spot on. I respect Wane for what he's achieved with us but i'm actually starting to dislike him. His arrogance and bitterness is worrying from my perspective especially looking at next season. I think the club is quite divided at the minute, there's a lack of empathy and apathy between the club and fans and i think its because of Wane. It feels like its the club against the fans to me. I also think it's getting to a point where Wane is lowering standards at the club instead of maintaining/raising. His tenure has become stale/stagnant and i think Lenegan has a big decision to make in the off season whether to bring in a new coach or an attacking coach but i don't see either of those things happening - thats the most worrying point for me.

There will be changes next year I'm sure of that however, I'm not sure if the changes will be drastic enough.
To be fair to SW he did say he had 2 views on this season one where he would have taken Wembley etc the other being this season want good enough.

Does anyone at the club understand league tables as it was clear to me way back that it would take a hell of an effort (15 points from our last 11 games looks like not being enough) to reach the top 4. Was it pure arrogance that we would eventually go on a winning run? Either way the Cronulla match was great, Wembley wasn't that difficult to get to and was a missed opportunity and not reaching the playoffs is a failure.

THE SALARY CAP HAS RUINED THE GAME

I bet he ends up at Warrington and we continue with Waney

Seriously ... ignore that chap.

He's our resident daftie.

No one at Wigan, on the terraces or in the club, is blaming the salary cap for our current problems. If anything, we're making better use of it than many others, having two marquee players (even if neither of them is demonstrating anything like marquee form - though that's another story altogether).

But no, he often comes on here shouting odd things - and is not to be taken seriously.

Ok cheers.

If that statement is directly from SW, then its the cry of a dead man walking. Should Hull lose at Cas then he needs 3 wins out of 3 to have a sniff of saving his job. Even winning the GF may not be enough, as the pundits and media would almost airbrush it out of the history books in favour of Cas who "won the league".

We need a major overhaul in the close season - I don't want to be watching another season of wrestling next season.

I've just watched his interview on Wigan tv and that's not what he said!
He said that at the beginning of the year had he been offered the WCC a Wembley final place and a chance of being in the Superleague semi-finals then he would "probably" have taken it.
He also said that there were no excuses and the buck stops with him.

Well I hope lenegan takes action on that last sentence and sacks him when the seasons over