Well thats what is being smeared all over their forums. Nothing to do with them being shiiite and deserving to lose.

Do you think it exists in RL though seriously? I can't see it myself.

Just sour grapes from them. Embarrassing really

I wouldn't go as far as to say match-fixing. Not sure what it is in the St Helens mentality to make them believe they're such a threat to the status quo that they must be persecuted.

But incompetence of the match officials? That's an entirely different thing, and we saw yet more classic examples of it last night.

I thought Lineham 'just' about got the ball down although the Peyroux try should clearly have been given (and Saints lost 10 seconds on the clock I noticed whilst it was looked at).

There was another really poor error just before Ratchfords try when Philbin dropped the ball but it wasn't spotted.

Another poor night for the officials but not to worry, we've got Hicks tonight!!!!

Crazy

to be fair the ref murdered them if that was wigan last night id be frothing

I thought there were big question-marks against both the Lineham and Gidley tries, while the disallowed Saints try was outrageous.

I find it mind-boggling that video refs can get things wrong as often as they do.

high tackle that the video ref got involved in. Ref saw it didnt think it was but he over ruled him, but it wasnt high. Missed knock ons just general poor decisions in such a big game is unforgivable

the worse thing that can happen is if the officials are the same tonight. We do not want 2 teams in the final that got there by controversial means.

I'm with you. Gidley grounded short then bounced up as he crossed the line, never grounding the ball. Lineham for me lost control of the ball whilst Peyroux appeared to cross the line with his effort.
As a separate issue I'm disappointed to see we've got Hicks again, he's a real game spoiler.

I said that the Wakefield no try against Hull and the strangely blurry replay of the Tierney try against Wire (look at another replay from any other week and they're clear as a bell) were part of a conspiracy to firstly put more hype around the Wire-Wigan game and then to take the LLS game to Hull-Wire, keeping it interesting to the final game making "every minute matter".

But if the game had been officiated properly last night we'd have seen about a 25-6 penalty count with Saints' spoiling being penalised and Wire given more dangerous field position and probably scoring a load more points so the talking points that have materialised from this game would be very minor.

I admire the intellectual acrobatics you've performed to come up with that defence of the indefensible.

But ultimately, I don't blame Warrington. They have to take their chances, however they arise. On top of that, they were probably slightly the better side anyway, so I'm not saying it was a completely unjust result.

My real beef is with the video refs who now seem to provide us with at least one howler every week.

I blame the system, not the video ref.

Based on the system, I probably would have made the same call. It was clear the ball was over the line but I didnt think it was 100% clear that the ball was actually on the ground.

The Peyroux decision should signal the end of this nonsense sending it up as a try or no try rule. Half of the time the on field decision is just a guess but it ends up having so much influence on the VR's decision. If they genuinely don't know, which is the whole point of having a VR in the first place, then why do they need to make a decision/have a guess?

oh well, its only Saints

Turn it in now son