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Forwards start running straight and hard, gaps appear out wide and tries are scored.
We should try it more often !

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Pity that the first 60mins were total garbage.

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Quote: apollosghost "Forwards start running straight and hard, gaps appear out wide and tries are scored.
We should try it more often !'"

Our props couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag at the moment.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "Our props couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag at the moment.'"

Clubb puts his colleagues in the pack to shame,.

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Shame that Taylor did not want to play in a good team, and went to the shambles that is Salford... Jibber

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Quote: P-J "Clubb puts his colleagues in the pack to shame,.'"


He does and the sad thing is it's not rocket science. He runs hard and tackles hard and plays with bottle. With all due respect there's nothing particularly skilful about it but he has the guts to pull it off.

As for the others...

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What a strange decision it was to play Gelling on the left and Bateman on the right also. Bateman has played left centre before (and quite well v. Saints away last year) while Gelling has never played anywhere other than on the right.

Although I thought Bateman was awesome yet again, he was all over the place. And Gelling has his moments, not least that tap penalty. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wigg'n "What a strange decision it was to play Gelling on the left and Bateman on the right also. Bateman has played left centre before (and quite well v. Saints away last year) while Gelling has never played anywhere other than on the right.

Although I thought Bateman was awesome yet again, he was all over the place. And Gelling has his moments, not least that tap penalty.
Some people around me were going spare at the Gelling tap, i was chuckling to myself... Mad as a box of frogs.

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During Nobles last year I used to call our performances inept this season they are just dire.
At half time queuing up for a pint I have never heard so many fans complaining about the quality of the performance since the latter days of Noble's tenure.
We genuinely look like a team who do not practice anything.
The players seem to want to win but don't have a clue on how to do it. The scenes at the end were good in that it showed the players really wanted to win but also emphasised just how poor our standards have become when a win over a very average if determined Widnes was greeted as if we had just won the GF.
I would put myself very much as a SW supporter however, perhaps the time has come for a change unless he can turn it around quickly which with the players available I would very much doubt he can deliver that
The sheer lack of intensity is pretty frightening and this is reflected in the library atmosphere in the ground. IL is a forthright businessman and he can't allow this continue because next season ticket sales will be a disaster due to a woeful squad and for me the dreaded Thursday nights.
SW won't or probably can't change his tatics so the only piece of advice that I can give him is to buy Tautai a bucket to carry the ball in and get Tomkins one with a lid on.

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Some people around me were going spare at the Gelling tap, i was chuckling to myself... Mad as a box of frogs.'"

It's one of them, innit ? It comes off and we score, he's brilliant, it doesn't come off and we loose possession on the first tackle and he's a knob. Love him or hate him, he's always ready to try something that no-ones expecting, and fair play to him k020.gif

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Quote: wigginswarrior "It's one of them, innit ? It comes off and we score, he's brilliant, it doesn't come off and we loose possession on the first tackle and he's a knob. Love him or hate him, he's always ready to try something that no-ones expecting, and fair play to him
I was informed last night that Gelling has applied for leave of absence next July, something about taking his BMX on a bike Tour in France. icon_motor.gif

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Quote: Wigg'n "What a strange decision it was to play Gelling on the left and Bateman on the right also. Bateman has played left centre before (and quite well v. Saints away last year) while Gelling has never played anywhere other than on the right.

Although I thought Bateman was awesome yet again, he was all over the place. And Gelling has his moments, not least that tap penalty. Aren't there rumours than Charnley doesn't like playing outside of Gelling?

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Quote: P-J "Aren't there rumours than Charnley doesn't like playing outside of Gelling?'"


There are now.. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Wigg'n "What a strange decision it was to play Gelling on the left and Bateman on the right also. Bateman has played left centre before (and quite well v. Saints away last year) while Gelling has never played anywhere other than on the right.

Although I thought Bateman was awesome yet again, he was all over the place. And Gelling has his moments, not least that tap penalty.
Because most rugby league players are right handed, they pass better to their left. This is less the case now compared to in the past, but it's still generally true. This means the left centre tends to get more ball. Correspondingly, the right centre ends up doing more defence. It's probably because Gelling is a better ball carrier, and Bateman a better defender.

Despite only playing twice since the start of May, Gelling made the most carries he has all year with 27; before this match he was averaging 17 a match. Bateman made 25 tackles, with 1 missed, while Gelling made 11 tackles, with 2 misses. It's probably also partly a response to the Warrington match, where Gelling made 14 tackles and missed 7, with Wane moving him to a position where he'll have to do less work in defence. The stats back this up - only twice this year has he made less tackles than on Friday.

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Some people around me were going spare at the Gelling tap, i was chuckling to myself... Mad as a box of frogs.'"


Well those people were right to be annoyed. I am not sure why you think it was funny. It was poor play and he is guilty of it quite often. Unless he grows a brain and cuts out rubbish like that he won't be good enough.

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