that was pathetic, cup final or not we have playing like a team who has not played together since the exiles. play like that against hull and we WILL lose at Wembley. They are clueless, no plan B when plan A does not work which we don't seem to be able to execute anyway. Green has lost the plot, Mossop the motions why do we bother and Sam T picking and choosing what games he plays, what will be the excuse next week, we have had food poisoning the night before, now a back spasm, off to NZ and stop wasting our time, Wane needs to sort it and fast or will end up with nothing this season,

You can lend our song if you want "We're /:;t without Briers (insert Tomkins) we're /:;t without Briers.... Only we're not anymore
The sooner he decides to stop mugging you off and telling you he's going the better. You can move on and forget about him. You've some cracking young lads stepping up which can only be good for the future.

cant disagree with you, the facts do not lie!

Whether he goes or not the record without
him is an utter disgrace

The look on his face during the game suggests he wanted to be out there, I think it is Wane wrapping him up in cotton wool pre Wembley. Maybe he feels only a trophy will save his job (not that I agree with that).

We missed O'Loughlin more than Tomkins IMO.

I honestly think we miss O'Loughlin more than Sam. Hampshire is doing a great job stepping in SAMs shoes so far, nobody is stepping in O'Loughlins. It's not helping that our halves are playing also. What happened to their first half of the season form at all? Especially Green. We would've been better off without him today.

no blame on the young bloke but i thought he was dire tonight.

No matter which players were and were not playing, there's no excuse for powder puff defence like that.

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No (Vice) Captain, No direction. MM is no stand in for SOL.

The ST affair is creating too much apathy and complacency, resulting in zero team ethic.
Does IL et al think we are all stupid?.. Minor back problem?, my Jim Royle.
Wrapping in cotton wool, more like it, and everyone with a season ticket should now be demanding at least a partial refund.

Spot on even crap players can tackle

You need to get rid of luaki he's a liabilty

You have him we will have Wood off you. I will throw in a bag of Skittles and an pie.

The amount of top quality talent we have lost since 2010 and are continuing to lose is a massive concern here. Our production of young talent is top class but the kids need time and losing top quality players( 3 or 4 every season for the last 2-3 years) is taking its toll... especially since our entire attacking structure is built around a freak talent and when he doesn't play it becomes massively predictable for the top sides to stop.

Hudds were worthy winners tonight and didn't even play well .


All that being said... we were still without our 1,7,13 and there's still hope but lets face it, at the start of the season with all the players we lost, none of us expected to be top or even be in with a shout towards the end and we have a huge chance of lifting silverware in 2 weeks time.

No need for Wigan fans to over react IMO.
Only 2 trophies worth winning and you have a good chance of both. It's about getting your best team fit and on the field for the play offs that matters. Tonights result means little in the grand scheme of things.