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Im really hoping hock is back for whoever we play in the semi, he was awsome against saints. also would love gil dudson to play as well, he was epic against catalan

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Hopefully:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goulding
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Tommy Leuluai
8. Lee Mossop
9. Matty Smith
10. Eric Lauaki
11. Gareth Hock
12. Harrison Hansen
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gil Dudson
15. Liam Farrell
16. Jeff Lima
17. Ben Flower

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Hock in the starting line up for Hughes. Hughes on the bench for Flower or Dudson.

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Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Carmont Richards
Finch Leuluai
Dudson O'Loughlin Mossop
Hansen Hock Farrell

Subs Lauaki Lima Hughes Smith

It's got to be 2 from Lauaki, Flower and Hughes on the bench I think. I wouldn't like to leave Hughes out because he's playing well and can cover 2 positions. I thought Flower was excellent against Catalans and would be unlucky to miss out but if Wane is playing him as a prop it'd be a waste having 3 on the bench.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Carmont Richards
Finch Leuluai
Dudson O'Loughlin Mossop
Hansen Hock Farrell

Subs Lauaki Lima Hughes Smith

It's got to be 2 from Lauaki, Flower and Hughes on the bench I think. I wouldn't like to leave Hughes out because he's playing well and can cover 2 positions. I thought Flower was excellent against Catalans and would be unlucky to miss out but if Wane is playing him as a prop it'd be a waste having 3 on the bench.'"


I think the bench will depend on who we play tbh. If we play Catalans again then I expect he will go big on the bench and take Dudson above Flower. If we play Leeds he may go for mobility which would obv have Flower ahead of Dudson.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Smith for me is a must start and play 80 mins

We would have beat Saints if he was playing his kicking game is the best in our team

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Quote: king warrior "Smith for me is a must start and play 80 mins

We would have beat Saints if he was playing his kicking game is the best in our team'"


Smith's not an 80 min hooker IMO. I thought starting Lockers at 9 and bringing Smith on off the bench worked really well against Catalans.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Smith's not an 80 min hooker IMO. I thought starting Lockers at 9 and bringing Smith on off the bench worked really well against Catalans.'"
I agree change Tommy and Smith up each do 20 mins a half both need to do 80 for me it's crucial

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Quote: king warrior "I agree change Tommy and Smith up each do 20 mins a half both need to do 80 for me it's crucial'"


I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.'"
It didn't though Lockers did an ok job at 9 just like he did at 6 the only reason that position change didn't get stick is cause Catalan was very poor you cant do it against top teams

Tommy,Smith and finch all know the script the only people you are changing is Tommy and Smith leave the subs for the forwards cause if we are in a close game we will need them fresh at all times and not blowing

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Lockers at 9 to start against Cats was fine as they aint the greatest at putting pressure on the dummy half.....Leeds would be a different story, need a dummy half against them

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Quote: king warrior "It didn't though Lockers did an ok job at 9 just like he did at 6 the only reason that position change didn't get stick is cause Catalan was very poor you cant do it against top teams

Tommy,Smith and finch all know the script the only people you are changing is Tommy and Smith leave the subs for the forwards cause if we are in a close game we will need them fresh at all times and not blowing'"


Wane might go for that, can't see it though. Chopping and changing the halfbacks every 20 mins doesn't work, we lose fluidity. Finch and Tommy are looking somewhere near back to their best playing alongside each other. It's obviously not an ideal situation to have our 1st choice hooker out, but if a combination of Lockers and Smith can cover it and leave our 1st choice half backs together then that's what we should go for. I expect the only change from last week will be Hock in for Hughes.

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I think Wigan are dubious about starting Smith at hooker due to a lack of physicality and I fully back that. These games are going to start at a good pace and teams will really be going at it in the forwards so to keep him out of the fire for 20-25 mins makes perfect sense.

He can then come on when bodies are tiring and hopefully start to probe around that middle area and get the opposition turning with his kicking game.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.'"


Spot on.

Leuluai and Finch control the team, so don't interfere with that.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "I think Wigan are dubious about starting Smith at hooker due to a lack of physicality and I fully back that. These games are going to start at a good pace and teams will really be going at it in the forwards so to keep him out of the fire for 20-25 mins makes perfect sense.

He can then come on when bodies are tiring and hopefully start to probe around that middle area and get the opposition turning with his kicking game.'"
I agree about the physical part but flip that round how many games have been won and lost in the first 20 this season?

That against Catalan was training ground stuff lockers had all the time in the world to get the ball out to the half backs when you are playing teams like Wire,Saints and Leeds it's not going to cut Finch or Tommy would have near 0 options cause they are getting shut down and any coach knows this and will play on it

We have let Leeds and Wire get away this season in the first 20 and lost both and these 2 are the most likely options we will have come sat night

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