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Having read a few of your comments I thought I might post as I watch him every week. Absolute top bloke! One of the most passionate players u will have had. Has improved tenfold since he joined us. I know there have been a few negative comments about him but he is a good scrm half, whether he is top 4 quality we don't know as he plays behind a weak pack and only a hand ful of world class players.My questio with him has to be his running with ball, he is quick, but has no step. His passing has improved but many people go on about his kicking. Holdsworth is the main man for kickIng for us and smith keeps his boot away, he probably kicks 30% of our open play and to be honest it's ok. Hope he does well for u guys ,except against us, as he will give 100% and will be a fans Fav! If not we will have him back!

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I think all the Wigan fan's have to get optimistic about Matty's future at Wigan, he's obviously going to be compared to Finch and Tommy but given time and continued coaching I can see him being a good acquisition for us. The potential of Tomkins and Smith halves combination could work very well with Russell playing a similar role to how Sam does now, but that's merely forecasting the future.

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agreed, i imagine stood next to the best player in england he will look good icon_smile.gif any good youngsters out of contract next year? any props or fb? bar russell who im not sure is great under the bomb

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Quote: KMT "Having read a few of your comments I thought I might post as I watch him every week. Absolute top bloke! One of the most passionate players u will have had. Has improved tenfold since he joined us. I know there have been a few negative comments about him but he is a good scrm half, whether he is top 4 quality we don't know as he plays behind a weak pack and only a hand ful of world class players.My questio with him has to be his running with ball, he is quick, but has no step. His passing has improved but many people go on about his kicking. Holdsworth is the main man for kickIng for us and smith keeps his boot away, he probably kicks 30% of our open play and to be honest it's ok. Hope he does well for u guys ,except against us, as he will give 100% and will be a fans Fav! If not we will have him back!'"


Well you obviously admire his effort but you are damning him with faint praise a bit here (no step, not your main in-play kicker, passing improved suggesting it wasn't very good in the first place).

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read into this what you will icon_smile.gif for me a 7/10 scrum half, will probably improve to an 8/10 with you guys, no thomas tho!!

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Quote: KMT "whether he is top 4 quality we don't know as he plays behind a weak pack and only a hand ful of world class players.'"



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I realise this thread is about Matty Smith but I really wish people would stop going on about Sam to 6 with Russell at 1 as it got old long ago, For the love of god give it a rest for as long as Sam Tomkins is at Wigan now, Wether thats 1 more season, The agreed 3 (including this), The 5 of his contract or the rest of his career (god willing), Sam Tomkins will only play Full-Back not 6 not 9 not 13 or any other position simply 1 and after Etihad Magic & Leeds away why anyone would want anything different is beyond me. I guarantee at 6 vs Leeds he wouldn't have made 4 clean breaks with 3 resulting in a try.

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My thoughts on Matty Smith we all know what he can do he beat Wire in the playoffs on his own a couple of seasons ago

At Saints he didn't really get a chance he was in and out of that team plus going on loan to worse clubs

Salford he's done ok there imo it's not easy playing behind a beaten pack near every week and if anyone who has played rugby will tell you this

The guy is still young and can play well his kicking game is good yes we all know he's not better than Tommy or Finch but with the right direction from Harris and Deacon he could be a very good halfback time will tell

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Quote: king warrior "My thoughts on Matty Smith we all know what he can do he beat Wire in the playoffs on his own a couple of seasons ago

At Saints he didn't really get a chance he was in and out of that team plus going on loan to worse clubs

Salford he's done ok there imo it's not easy playing behind a beaten pack near every week and if anyone who has played rugby will tell you this

The guy is still young and can play well his kicking game is good yes we all know he's not better than Tommy or Finch but with the right direction from Harris and Deacon he could be a very good halfback time will tell'"


I keep wondering which ready-made world-beating scrum half is currently available whom we can afford.

People keep saying Danny Brough, but he'll be 30 this time next year.

In 2010 and this year too, we've seen that, under the right coaching, 'lesser' players can have a big impact. Matty Smith is not a lesser player, he's a pretty decent player. For me - unless Cooper Cronk suddenly rings up and says that he's bored in Australia - Matty Smith would be a very good option.

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I think Holdsworth, Smith's half-back partner at Salford, is the better player out of the two.

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What I love about this thread is that there's plenty of comments about how TL is great in his position and we haven't had the normal "he's a hooker" comments.

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Quote: wiganrl "I realise this thread is about Matty Smith but I really wish people would stop going on about Sam to 6 with Russell at 1 as it got old long ago, For the love of god give it a rest for as long as Sam Tomkins is at Wigan now, Wether thats 1 more season, The agreed 3 (including this), The 5 of his contract or the rest of his career (god willing), Sam Tomkins will only play Full-Back not 6 not 9 not 13 or any other position simply 1 and after Etihad Magic & Leeds away why anyone would want anything different is beyond me. I guarantee at 6 vs Leeds he wouldn't have made 4 clean breaks with 3 resulting in a try.'"


Before you posted this no one had mentioned Sam at 6 in this thread. However he has said himself he is expecting to play at 6 at some point this season.

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He's also said in today's MEN that he now sees himself as a full back. Shaun Wane has ruled out moving him from full back to stand off so please stop bleating on about it. There is a reason why Shaun Wane is the coach and not any of us!!!!

Can we please give Matty Smith a chance without comparing him to Finch, Tommy, Trent, Deacs or any other player who has graced the halfback jersey in the last 20 years. Posters on here were dead against us signing Eric Luauki (spelling) saying he would be a liability but if you look at his stats, he's been awesome for us, hardly missing a tackle and has lots of go forward and raw agression - something that Shaun Wane loves!

Let the guys at the club do their job and just sit back and enjoy the magic that our team produces on the rugby field!

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Made me chuckle too. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Weekend Warrior "He's also said in today's MEN that he now sees himself as a full back. Shaun Wane has ruled out moving him from full back to stand off so please stop bleating on about it. There is a reason why Shaun Wane is the coach and not any of us!!!!

Can we please give Matty Smith a chance without comparing him to Finch, Tommy, Trent, Deacs or any other player who has graced the halfback jersey in the last 20 years. Posters on here were dead against us signing Eric Luauki (spelling) saying he would be a liability but if you look at his stats, he's been awesome for us, hardly missing a tackle and has lots of go forward and raw agression - something that Shaun Wane loves!

Let the guys at the club do their job and just sit back and enjoy the magic that our team produces on the rugby field!'"

Don't be arrogant and insist people not to share their opinions on a message board, there's many people who think Sam will eventually be put back into the halves once he develops a quality passing game and there's others who think he's a fullback for life. It's not coaching it's sharing an opinion.

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